EnviroTO
Senior Member
They did major construction on the utilities under the street last summer requiring the ripping out of the tracks and then paved it over when they were done.
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They did major construction on the utilities under the street last summer requiring the ripping out of the tracks and then paved it over when they were done.
StIdes
Active Member
I'm not "one" of those people. I'm a driver and a TTC user (I mainly only drive for long distances or heavy objects I need to move). I'm one of those people who is sick of the government babysitting us with the trade off of more traffic congestion. I've passed plenty of streetcars on roncy in my car and have never come close to hitting anyone, nor would I ever drive by a streetcar with it's doors open.
When we improve transit we should not be creating more traffic. That is totally counter intuitive. This will effect the transit riders as much as the car drivers. The more cars clogging the road because they can't get around streetcars = slower moving streetcars.
Ive been riding streetcars in Toronto for 25 years. I have not even had one close call with being hit by a car entering and exiting. Sure I've seen idiot drivers not stop and had to wait a second, but I always look first. We don't need our hands held like this. Less congestion should be the #1 goal in road/transit infrastructure planning for this city.
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AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
StIdes:
Perhaps a reread of what catcher said would be helpful:
Please note that drivers are the ones who have been preventing that from happening.
AoD
Perhaps a reread of what catcher said would be helpful:
Please note that drivers are the ones who have been preventing that from happening.
AoD
Tewder
Senior Member
I don't find there is anything ordinary about Roncesvalles at all, streetcars or no. It's one of Toronto's better preserved urban streetscapes, and thankfully not too hipster-fied yet.
Dan416
Senior Member
Thank you for the explanation.
urbandreamer
recession proof
Had to smile when I saw these t-shirts in an Upper Roncy shop window last week:
StIdes
Active Member
I live at Queen and Roncy and I use to work at Steeles and Keele for 5 years. I would drive north on roncy from queen all the way to bloor at 8:00am every weekday and would probably pass on average 2-3 streetcar. There are plenty of more places to pass streetcars other then queen and dundas. Every traffic light on Roncy is an easy streetcar pass. There are 3 sets of traffic lights alone on roncy that arent even major intersections (@ high park, howard park and the fork at dundas), that's a chance to pass a street car ruffly every 450 meters the way the lights are spaced.
catcher_of_cats
Senior Member
Obviously when all the stores are closed there are virtually no cars parked outside of them making passing a breeze.
StIdes
Active Member
It made no difference what time of day it was. There are plenty of places to pass streetcars on roncy, it's no different then queen king or college. I don't see them suggesting "bump-outs" for those streets.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Bumpouts may look like laybys in some circumstances, where parking is allowed. There is to be (pay) parking on Roncesvalles Avenue even during the normal rush hours, after the construction is finished. During construction, where available, parking is free.
Bumpouts will not be installed where there is no parking/no stopping during the rush hours, such as Queen Street.
Where space is available, laybys (parking indentations into the sidewalk) will be installed. The Queensway west of Mimico Creek and east of Islington Avenue is an example of a road with laybys. You may see laybys currently used as bus stops, but the trend is now towards using laybys for parking.
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sungs
Active Member
What is the projected completion for this vs when we really think it will get done? Will I be able to ride my bike down Roncy the coming Spring?
EnviroTO
Senior Member
My understanding is that they are on schedule with the track work. How quickly they will do the sidewalk and street is another question.
urbandreamer
recession proof
Work is progressing rapidly--most of the street has the tracks laid up to Dundas&Roncy, with maybe four block stretch to do. I could see the tracks done by early October.
Sungs--you can ride your bike down the street quite easily these days, although I prefer quieter side streets myself.
Sungs--you can ride your bike down the street quite easily these days, although I prefer quieter side streets myself.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The intersection of Dundas Street West and Roncesvalles is being closed off for construction. The TTC will be detouring buses, streetcars in the Roncesvalles / Dundas area, from August 23 to September 7. See Transit Toronto for more information at this link.
I would have preferred that they continue working on the roadway south and north of Howard Park Avenue until after the CNE. However, I guess they wanted the intersection clear before Labour Day, because of expected increases in traffic after Labour Day.
I would have preferred that they continue working on the roadway south and north of Howard Park Avenue until after the CNE. However, I guess they wanted the intersection clear before Labour Day, because of expected increases in traffic after Labour Day.
catcher_of_cats
Senior Member
The track work could possibly be complete by mid September, but it will take much longer to complete the rest of the project.