Kamuix
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Same shit as before you spewed out the same psychological defenses and government lies. I just happen to know that you're extremely narrow minded and it's obvious that you're conditioned hardcore by the media/government.
No i can just tell by the way you and some others post about these types of things that you/they currently are closed minded to it and for the most part reject it based on a simple logic like..:The government would never do such a thing, word would have got out about it, no government evidence etc.. When a government like this has been in control of society for as long as it has you really need to look outside the box in order to see things for what they are. Of course you're an idiot are just going to attack this with "no evidence" instead of discussing the logic, watch, he'll attack me personally or try to undermined what i said by using some logic that doesn't make sense when you look at it.
You kind of have to get passed the way society tells you to think before you can look at this in a balanced way. Building 7 wasn't even hit by a place yet it fell perfectly straight down in seven seconds. There was tons of video cameras facing the pentagon when it was hit. they were immediately confiscated and then there was(and still is) a whole bunch of questions being asked about what really did hit the pentagon. one 5 frame video was released that didn't show what hit the pentagon. To prove that plane hit the building all they would have to do was release one of those videos.. Yet they didn't. These are two of the biggest examples of what could easily make a reasonable person skeptical. I know Grissie is going to post quoting this saying "That's not evidence" like he always does. But he uses that to justify avoiding the questions I ask him and a way to convince himself that I'm just a crazy delirious conspiracy theorists. We've gone far past that and I've countered him on it many times but he's conditioned and far too gone to wake up to reality.
The point is the problem isn't that i don't show enough evidence, that's a front Grissie uses to reject everything I say at once. The problem is you guys are conditioned into societies beliefs and until you get passed that and open your mind to other possibilities you won't get anywhere.
You're manipulating everything to try and make what I think about these events look ridiculous.. Give me a break!
Important Points:
I'm trying to get people to look outside the box and consider what i have to say and have shown.
I'm not offering what i say as absolute proof.
You won't offer proof for the side you're defending.
You keep making the same stupid arguments over and over.
You don't address important things that I ask.
You use the "no evidence" and the "that's off topic" defense to justify not addressing things I've asked or pointed out.
You've made up your own rule that because I made a claim I must show absolute evidence(proof by your standards is questionable anyway).
You're refusing to discuss anything about the 9/11 conspiracies but instead just attack the thread poster.
By reading your posts it's quite clear that you already believe what you've been told by the government and demand proof to prove otherwise, so it's obvious you believe what you've been told without question. Also when i ask the simple question "Do you believe anything the government tells you?" you won't even answer that!
Common guys.. It's got to be obvious after reading through this that Grissie is conditioned. And if you don't think so and you see something wrong with my logic then post and counter-act my logic, tell me what's wrong with it. But please only if you actually see something wrong with it and go into detail, don't use a generalization like "Yes Kamuix, you've asked us to look outside the box. But I'm sure almost everyone here has done so and realized that it doesn't make sense" Because I know you either you haven't looked enough or like I've said many times haven't opened your minds to it. And i don't having to counter-act everyone's generalizations like that it's just annoying, make a good argument and don't generalize.
You think this is entertaining for me? when i know our freedoms are going down the hole and people are being conditioned to think a curtain way and not ask questions and to just believe what the government says then I want to wake people up and help restore what our forefathers fought for.
^That's an example of a generalization that holds itself holds no water because he just attacks "Conspiracy theorists" in general and talks as if all they have is signs and no evidence when they're is WAY more than that he knows that. And yes it is depressing but it's worth it to do your part and i don't obsess with it or anything because that would be depressing.
Oh god please don't ever say that, if you look back in history it's happened over and over again and I know it can seem unbelievable at first but hey at least you're skeptical but please don't ever under estimate the corruption of power. This includes people at the top of big companies. Sociopathic people have their way of getting up there.
Pie, watch Invisible empire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E
Just give it a chance!
No i can just tell by the way you and some others post about these types of things that you/they currently are closed minded to it and for the most part reject it based on a simple logic like..:The government would never do such a thing, word would have got out about it, no government evidence etc.. When a government like this has been in control of society for as long as it has you really need to look outside the box in order to see things for what they are. Of course you're an idiot are just going to attack this with "no evidence" instead of discussing the logic, watch, he'll attack me personally or try to undermined what i said by using some logic that doesn't make sense when you look at it.
You kind of have to get passed the way society tells you to think before you can look at this in a balanced way. Building 7 wasn't even hit by a place yet it fell perfectly straight down in seven seconds. There was tons of video cameras facing the pentagon when it was hit. they were immediately confiscated and then there was(and still is) a whole bunch of questions being asked about what really did hit the pentagon. one 5 frame video was released that didn't show what hit the pentagon. To prove that plane hit the building all they would have to do was release one of those videos.. Yet they didn't. These are two of the biggest examples of what could easily make a reasonable person skeptical. I know Grissie is going to post quoting this saying "That's not evidence" like he always does. But he uses that to justify avoiding the questions I ask him and a way to convince himself that I'm just a crazy delirious conspiracy theorists. We've gone far past that and I've countered him on it many times but he's conditioned and far too gone to wake up to reality.
The point is the problem isn't that i don't show enough evidence, that's a front Grissie uses to reject everything I say at once. The problem is you guys are conditioned into societies beliefs and until you get passed that and open your mind to other possibilities you won't get anywhere.
You're manipulating everything to try and make what I think about these events look ridiculous.. Give me a break!
Important Points:
I'm trying to get people to look outside the box and consider what i have to say and have shown.
I'm not offering what i say as absolute proof.
You won't offer proof for the side you're defending.
You keep making the same stupid arguments over and over.
You don't address important things that I ask.
You use the "no evidence" and the "that's off topic" defense to justify not addressing things I've asked or pointed out.
You've made up your own rule that because I made a claim I must show absolute evidence(proof by your standards is questionable anyway).
You're refusing to discuss anything about the 9/11 conspiracies but instead just attack the thread poster.
By reading your posts it's quite clear that you already believe what you've been told by the government and demand proof to prove otherwise, so it's obvious you believe what you've been told without question. Also when i ask the simple question "Do you believe anything the government tells you?" you won't even answer that!
Common guys.. It's got to be obvious after reading through this that Grissie is conditioned. And if you don't think so and you see something wrong with my logic then post and counter-act my logic, tell me what's wrong with it. But please only if you actually see something wrong with it and go into detail, don't use a generalization like "Yes Kamuix, you've asked us to look outside the box. But I'm sure almost everyone here has done so and realized that it doesn't make sense" Because I know you either you haven't looked enough or like I've said many times haven't opened your minds to it. And i don't having to counter-act everyone's generalizations like that it's just annoying, make a good argument and don't generalize.
You think this is entertaining for me? when i know our freedoms are going down the hole and people are being conditioned to think a curtain way and not ask questions and to just believe what the government says then I want to wake people up and help restore what our forefathers fought for.
^That's an example of a generalization that holds itself holds no water because he just attacks "Conspiracy theorists" in general and talks as if all they have is signs and no evidence when they're is WAY more than that he knows that. And yes it is depressing but it's worth it to do your part and i don't obsess with it or anything because that would be depressing.
Oh god please don't ever say that, if you look back in history it's happened over and over again and I know it can seem unbelievable at first but hey at least you're skeptical but please don't ever under estimate the corruption of power. This includes people at the top of big companies. Sociopathic people have their way of getting up there.
Pie, watch Invisible empire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO24XmP1c5E
Just give it a chance!
