afransen
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Interesting approach. P3s with massive break fees...
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whatever
Senior Member
For what it's worth, I was told the rebar contractors were expecting to start mobilizing early 2023, and structural steel was to be going by end of 2023. 8 stops on the extension.
No clue if it's correct or if my source had his wires crossed, but he's generally solid on this stuff. I thought maybe he was thinking about one of the other lines, but he went on to update me on those lines separately.
nfitz
Superstar
If true, I'm scratching my head what the 8th station would be - unless it's Willowdale, or the modifications at Don Mills station.
Looking at the original plan, 4 of the stations would be Consumers, Victoria Park, Warden, Kennedy - and presumably the 5th would be Agincourt to meet the GO (only 400 metres from Kennedy). Then Brimley and McCowan.
Perhaps the density at Birchmount is worth adding a station. Or perhaps they'll finally achieve Rob Ford's promise of building Willowdale station between Bayview and Bessarion
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
If true, I'm scratching my head what the 8th station would be - unless it's Willowdale, or the modifications at Don Mills station.
Looking at the original plan, 4 of the stations would be Consumers, Victoria Park, Warden, Kennedy - and presumably the 5th would be Agincourt to meet the GO (only 400 metres from Kennedy). Then Brimley and McCowan.
Perhaps the density at Birchmount is worth adding a station. Or perhaps they'll finally achieve Rob Ford's promise of building Willowdale station between Bayview and Bessarion
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You mean the Willowdale NIMBYs made a mistake? Did the full moon turn them into YIMBYs?
Cobra
Senior Member
Midland?
Nah - I like arriving at Sheppard-Yonge fasterYou mean the Willowdale NIMBYs made a mistake? Did the full moon turn them into YIMBYs?
duffo
Active Member
Does your source know that multi-billion dollar transit projects go through public procurement? There may be very conceptual design stuff happening in the background, like when the Ontario Line was unveiled, but even that project has gone through 3 years of design refinements via its technical advisory contract. There is no chance that they can just start construction in the next 12 months without firming up the design further (at which point we would know much more about the project).
whatever
Senior Member
Yeah, it doesn't sound right to me either, but "mobilizing" covers an awful lot of ground, and he could've well been talking about early works at that. "Mobilizing" is basically everything that starts happening the moment the contract is final.
I'm well aware it hasn't gone to procurement, but it's not as though there are dozens of companies that could take on a project that big. There are less than three serious contenders, and amongst them they probably have a good idea who's going to land it
afransen
Senior Member
That seems very unlikely, because nothing has been tendered and there have been no public consultations. Maybe he's thinking Ontario Line, as that might be plausible for that project.
whatever
Senior Member
My first thought was that he was thinking OL, but he proceeded to give updates on the Crosstown, OL, Finch West, and B-D extension.
I dunno. It seemed weird and unexpected. I only came into the thread to see if anything had been announced. I'm taking his update with a big grain of salt, but I was intrigued to see the recent posts about the extension
I dunno. It seemed weird and unexpected. I only came into the thread to see if anything had been announced. I'm taking his update with a big grain of salt, but I was intrigued to see the recent posts about the extension
Sunnyside
Active Member
How much procurement, consultation, etc has already been done in the last few decades? Is it possible for everything left to do is simply announce the funding and start the bidding?
nfitz
Superstar
I doubt it, if they build Agincourt, as the tracks are only about 400 metres from Midland. As Agincourt is only 400 metres from Kennedy, I'd think that they'd place the Agincourt station so the west end is at the tracks, and the east end is at Lamont. Which leave only only a 250-metre (3-minute) walk from Lamont to Midland.
Station construction and even tunneling would be a challenge that quickly. But we all know where the TBM launch site can be (just east of Don Mills station). And they already did a full design there for Line 4 east to Victoria Park. I see no reason there can't be an advanced contract for that very quickly.
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steviej1
New Member
It doesn't seem as though it is in the Metrolinx Project Pipeline
Hopefully there is still some active work being done on it.
Hopefully there is still some active work being done on it.
toronto647
Active Member
November 2022 Market Update release earlier today. Relevant Sheppard Subway Extension information see below:
Projects in Planning Phase: Transit and Transportation - Line 4 Extension (Sheppard East) Subway
Basically no timeline whatsoever. At this point doubt any contracts will be signed prior to the next election and if so maybe just at the last minute to get the Scarborough vote tbh.
Source - https://www.infrastructureontario.c...et_Update/Market Update_11212022_FINAL_EN.pdf
Projects in Planning Phase: Transit and Transportation - Line 4 Extension (Sheppard East) Subway
Basically no timeline whatsoever. At this point doubt any contracts will be signed prior to the next election and if so maybe just at the last minute to get the Scarborough vote tbh.
Source - https://www.infrastructureontario.c...et_Update/Market Update_11212022_FINAL_EN.pdf
nfitz
Superstar
I'd assume that if it's on Infrastructure Ontario's list of projects being planned, that there is some active work on it at Metrolinx.It doesn't seem as though it is in the Metrolinx Project Pipeline
Hopefully there is still some active work being done on it.
Railrunner
Active Member
The east side of the Sheppard extension was on the Fall mini-budget. Undoubtedly somebody is working behind the scenes. The real question is what will happen with the Sheppard West to Sheppard-Yonge portion. Willowdale councillor Lily Cheng campaigned on that extension and won. I can't imagine it not being built at the same time as the Scarborough-Sheppard subway.