bobbob911
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I ride it every day and its 20
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This is based on GO-RER+ figures studied by Metrolinx. They show that GO-RER+ will only take away 400 people from Bloor-Yonge station at peak period.
That option studied by Metrolinx is essentially what SmartTrack has evolved to. Under GO-RER+ the combined frequency of different branches of GO-RER will provide close to 7 minute frequencies in downtown. SmartTrack as described in the Moore article might have 2 more trains per peak hour (if that is even possible) to reach 5 minute frequencies, that seems to be the only difference. (And I doubt would be too impactful on ridership numbers)
Nope. The Scarborough SRT replacement and extension was intended to be an independent project. At one point, Ford proposed grade-separating the entire line; if that was the case, the Scarborough LRT and Eglinton LRTs could be interlined. But it never made into any EA or serious study.
The Scarborough Subway exists as the go-forward plan thanks to Ford, Stintz, De Baeremaeker, and now Tory.
The options and numbers being referred to here, for those who are just joining us:
I don't recall it ever being a huge part of that election. I think you are inventing facts to support your incorrect position.
- People were opposed to the on-street LRT streetcars and that was one of the main reasons Ford was elected.
Surface Subway option moves the transfer point further west, which is why the line seems to relieve more people than the traditional Short or Long options. (People from Chester/Broadview station are more likely to opt to transfer than continue to Bloor-Yonge)The subsequent YRNS technical report was a bit more in depth, and gave us a new line to consider ("Surface Subway"). This technical report was seemingly hidden from public view over the summer until Steve Munro got access to it in the fall and posted it.
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Correct.DonValleyRainbow, good graphics! (Those are Metrolinx's, right?)
You keep talking about the traditional DRL like it's a better option than the ST subway. Let's say, for the sake of argument that is true............so what! Toronto is NOT going to get any money from the feds for the DRL. Toronto doesn't even know the streets it will travel on to say nothing of the endless community consultations and environmental reviews.
This infrastructure program has 2 priorities.............green infrastructure as a long term investment and the creation of short term jobs and a boost to the economy. You guys keep talking like the options for downtown are a Relief subway or the ST subway..............wrong. The option is between a ST subway and doing nothing. The feds are not going to give a DRL one penny so stop the dreams of grandeur.
ST can begin construction immediately. There is no reason for community consultations or environmental reviews as this is along a current operating rail corridor. Some may not be able to start immediately but who cares as a lot of it can. Electrification Egl/MD, Kennedy, Corktown, Liberty Village stations, and a maintenance facility to name just a few. Put them out to tender and construction could start in 4 months.
Whether you agree with ST or not as a the route of a downtown subway you better understand the doing nothing is the only other option so get this DRL out of your head. Trudeau will, nor should he, fund a cent of the DRL.
ST can begin construction immediately.
There is no reason for community consultations or environmental reviews as this is along a current operating rail corridor.
Whether you agree with ST or not as a the route of a downtown subway you better understand the doing nothing is the only other option so get this DRL out of your head. Trudeau will, nor should he, fund a cent of the DRL.
ST can begin construction immediately.