GenerationW
Senior Member
My washing machine is very prolific. And never the same song twice.
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junctionist
Senior Member
If rapping was just talking, it wouldn't sound right over a beat. It would be chaotic. A rapper talks with a rhythm. He controls the tones of his voice. Those are the elements that form a vocal melody.
If you programmed your dishwasher to achieve a certain rhythm, you'd be making music.
Armour
Senior Member
The noises my body makes when I'm on the toilet are more intruiging than modern rap. The sound of diarrhea hitting fresh porcelain is vaguely avant garde.
junctionist
Senior Member
Rappers write verses with metaphors, similes and symbolism. Their lyrics contain hidden meanings, so their work can be poetic. While they come up with their own words and phrases and even grammatical conjugations, is there anything wrong with that? I think a language should be free to change and evolve, and it's good that there are people experimenting to see what variations can work.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Pretty sure you're trolling at this point.
Armour
Senior Member
A language should be allowed to evolve? There is an objective standard for how we write and say things. Otherwise I can call something by an arbitrary term, or bend an existing word into something that isn't universally accepted. One can see the damage that such permissiveness has caused. We have a culture of many young people that refuse to talk correctly because they think intelligent expression is lame and something that is suited for nerdy white people. Language isn't flexible to one's own desires. There is right way to pronounce words.
Armour
Senior Member
That isn't trolling; just having a little fun.
Armour
Senior Member
On the subject of using Canadian talent to headline the closing ceremonies, we would be remiss to forget about this country's greatest musical export, Fred Penner.
khris
Senior Member
Did anyone see The Flaming Lips last night? So awesome! Almost every song by Kiesza sounded the same though.
howl
Active Member
Well that's a very elitist view. I think people create art with whatever knowledge and experience they have available to them. Just because one persons experience happens to be the streets of Detroit or Camden NJ doesn't make their art any less powerful than art created by someone with a degree from Princeton. Art isn't about following pre-set rules - it's about giving your audience an emotional reaction.
animatronic
Senior Member
Wow. This thread just proves how exciting the actual Pan Am sports have turned out. In the last day there's been one post on baseball and eight pages of inanity from a bunch of nitwits arguing over the length of their CD collections. Can't wait for the Olympics so we can have a four week running argument of Proust vs Kerouac.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
It's usually best to ignore the opinions of people who say "this isn't real art", or something along those lines. They're typically obnoxious morons hopelessly blinded by their own cultural influences and elitism.
freshcutgrass
Senior Member
You are kidding yourself and trying too hard to make it all sound sophisticated...when it is the exact opposite. You should be asking yourself why you are apologizing for it.
Hip hop was just another interesting experiment from the late 70's, early 80's that should have died with punk and disco. It was just a fun little joke. To borrow a phrase from Fran Lebowitz...this is what happens when an inside joke gets into the water supply.
freshcutgrass
Senior Member
Isn't it ironic how the people who think rap = music are the same people who think ad hominem = ignore.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
When did I equate the two? Clearly I've made no attempt to ignore the dumbassery in this thread.