City won’t allow 2 towers. Only one.Ughh why cant this just be 2 separate towers attached to the podium if they're intent on going with this design. Or at least attempt to marry the east and west balcony treatments together in someway if you're going to stick with the current iteration.
I believe they have every intention of building this currently, for good or bad.…some of us can only hope that they don’t build this.
They will have full separation. Two car entrances. One new for 45. One existing for 25. No walking access. No sharing.This is confusing. After looking at the parking lot’s redevelopments, I noticed that they appear to only show the parking lot that is mostly under 45 The Esplanade, and not 25 The Esplanade. Remember both parking lots are connected and are under both buildings, and stretch all the way to both ends of buildings. I couldn’t find the ramp, and noticed that there are a lot of incoming changes to the lot. Here are their proposals to the garage, compared to the current layout.
Redesign of P1:
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Redesign of P2:
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And here are my drawings of the current parking lot’s layout by memory.
We see a number of differences. First, we don’t even see any parts of the garage west of the ramp. On the far east, under Novotel, there’s an area “U-Turn”, which has no parking. In the redevelopment, we see towards the wall, bike storage, but also parking. The wall is also more slanted towards the west. Parking spots remain on the southern-most area, as well as the big amounts of parking spaces in the centre, where the lobby for 45 The Esplanade is. Stairwell in the centre area will remain as well, however, I do not see a stairwell in the north-eastern corner. I instead see locker rooms. Parking spots remain on the northern wall. South-western corner appears to have bike storage. In the centre area, there will be bike storage, close to the stairwell, as well as locker rooms. The garage currently does not have locker rooms, only bike rooms, because 25 The Esplanade mostly has storage rooms built into the units instead of somewhere in the parking lot. Which is nicer. Some smaller units have locker rooms in the hallways of the building. With the newer development, they will be adding locker rooms to the garage for residents of 45 The Esplanade.
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Thanks for the response. I’m not sure if 118 spots will be enough for our 571 units. I know our 224 reserved parking spots aren’t fully used, but cutting it in half might not be great. At least our parking will not be shared anymore, and will be fully private. That’s probably gonna add more security, and no more event parking, which opens our contracted private parking to the public. What happens to the ownership though? Currently Silver Hotel Group owns the whole lot, but now that it is being completely separated, it might change? Or maybe not. As Silver Hotel Group also owns the retail and office spaces for 25 The Esplanade. Looking at the parking for 45 The Esplanade, I didn’t notice any ramps. Are the ramps west of Church St and into the lane way? Or closer to our current ramp? Also, the only parking we’ll keep will be the one that’s under our building, which is the triangular part, the part not shown in the proposal for 45. If this proposal does get accepted and construction starts, how are they gonna separate the garage? Will we lose access to it when they demolish half of the garage? You know, it’s connected as one.They will have full separation. Two car entrances. One new for 45. One existing for 25. No walking access. No sharing.
We should probably discuss this over a beer on the terrace . The lawyers will have to figure this one out. I assume some sort of new contract or settlement or a breach of contractThanks for the response. I’m not sure if 118 spots will be enough for our 571 units. I know our 224 reserved parking spots aren’t fully used, but cutting it in half might not be great. At least our parking will not be shared anymore, and will be fully private. That’s probably gonna add more security, and no more event parking, which opens our contracted private parking to the public. What happens to the ownership though? Currently Silver Hotel Group owns the whole lot, but now that it is being completely separated, it might change? Or maybe not. As Silver Hotel Group also owns the retail and office spaces for 25 The Esplanade. Looking at the parking for 45 The Esplanade, I didn’t notice any ramps. Are the ramps west of Church St and into the lane way? Or closer to our current ramp? Also, the only parking we’ll keep will be the one that’s under our building, which is the triangular part, the part not shown in the proposal for 45. If this proposal does get accepted and construction starts, how are they gonna separate the garage? Will we lose access to it when they demolish half of the garage? You know, it’s connected as one.
Lots of questions. Wonder how they’re gonna demolish half of our garage and separate it. Possibly losing access for a while…
Haha, yeah we should. We’ll probably run into each other someday. You’ve got every LCBO in town favourited on Apple Maps…We should probably discuss this over a beer on the terrace . The lawyers will have to figure this one out. I assume some sort of new contract or settlement or a breach of contract
The 45 ramp is at the back off the laneway. Each floor is “the ramp” slopped down to the next level. This will be a complete teardown to the existing P3 or a new elevation of P3.
I assume the first thing is to separate all the common elements in the parking garage; such as life safety, emergency power, controls, ventilation, water, sewer, drainage, lighting, electrical, communications, buried common main gas line in the laneway entrance. etc. Maybe they will need an additional new egress too.
Then I assume they would install a new concrete or block wall at the property line separating the 3 parking levels. Then we would be self contained and ready for demolition. Access to the 25 garage would be through the common laneway or the back laneway through our normal entrance. They will need to maintain access for cars, garbage, moving truck, contractors, daily Canada Post - post office box and other furniture deliveries.
I assume Silver Group Hotels will still maintain ownership of the existing parking and office. Who knows what their plans are? Sell it back, hand over the retail and office, try to make us happy or just give us the middle finger.
It should be fun one to demo with the 2024 bike lanes adjacent to colonnade and one way access on the Esplanade for staging.
Why bother? Just keep the Novotel.