Torontovibe said:
I hope it's not just more condos. We need some fun attractions that will bring people to the area and not just passive, under-used park land. We have enough grass and trees down there already.
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We cant even keep the other fun site (OP) nearby...id say build the casino there, its at the waterfront, transportation all around, also near the airport which is a bonus, plus city owns the land which can get them good bucks in rental....Gee its a no-brainer
 
I can't imagine they'd put condos there -- too close to the airport. But you never know! As for a casino, infrastructure would be an issue re traffic and parking. It's already a zoo with the airport. It will be interesting to see what they come up with.
 
PinkLucy said:
The silos are coming down :(. From Bathurst Quay Neighbourhood Association:
Build Toronto will be overseeing the development of the Canada Malting Lands over the next few years. They have approached BQNA for ideas, wish lists and concerns as plans for the property develop. The large silos will be demolished (a portion will remain as a heritage monument) and the property underneath will be developed. Please send us your ideas as this process begins.
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For more info: http://www.bqna.org/
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Not sure why you changed the quote, but here is what your link actually says:
Under consideration is the demolition of part of large silos (a portion will remain as a heritage monument) and the property underneath will be developed.
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Would condo owners want to live right beside an airport? Well, if they want to live right beside the Gardener, with all it's noise and pollution, I guess anything is possible but I think a mid priced hotel might be a better option, as long as it is tied in with a tourist type area like South Street Seaport. An area of waterfront retail, attractions and shopping might work.
 
The area could use more retail/restaurants but it doesn't get a whole lot of traffic. Harbourfront visitors seldom go west of Spadina, airport traffic goes directly to the airport. It's very quiet in the winter months, and the retail that is currently never appears to be all that busy (except for the Music Garden Cafe on a nice day).
 
That's because there is nothing there. Few tourists, or Torontonians, walk west of Spadina because there is nothing there except for parks and condos. The Music Garden Park may be considered a waterfront attraction but on most days, it's just a small amount of locals and joggers who go there. I walk through there quite frequently and probably less than 10% of the benches are ever occupied. We need to give people a reason to go to this area. Right now, all the traffic comes from one thing, the airport. Without that, it would be a dead zone.
 
Really? I often see more than 10% of the benches occupied, and the open square is frequently filled with sunbathers, dogs and kids. The music in the park events on Thursdays/Sundays are very well attended, there are often weddings, it's used for film shoots, there are people waiting for boat cruises and/or water taxis, there are the boaters who dock there. I lived across the road for a couple of years and was always surprised at how busy it was.

Does every place have to be an attraction? What's wrong with parks where people can (and do) just hang out or go for a stroll?

@RocketAppliances: the City link was from 2009, and those of us in the area have been under the impression that the silos would indeed be preserved. This Build Toronto news was posted a week or two ago, so it seems things may be changing
 
"Does every place have to be an attraction?"

Are you serious? We have more than enough underused, passive parkland on our waterfront, with more on the way. What we really need is FUN! It's well known that for a city our size, Toronto has very few tourist areas and attractions? Ask any Torontonian if they think Toronto has enough good tourist attractions. Everyone I have talked to has said NO! I think the question should be can we start taking tourism seriously and start building a few great tourist areas. (and attractions) We have the whole Central Waterfront and almost none of it has any serious attractions except for Harbourfront. The area east of Yonge will not have one single tourist attraction or cultural venue. (no art galleries, no museums, no cultural centres) It will be just parks and condos, with a few office buildings thrown in for good measure. We have a huge waterfront and almost no major attractions on it, not to mention, an iconic building. Shouldn't a great waterfront have at least one iconic building on it? (or is that too much to ask from a "world class city"?) I think Toronto needs a lot more major attractions (especially on the waterfront) and tourist areas, not just for tourists but for Torontonians, like myself.

Not all Torontonians are a stick in the mud.

And the government & tourism industry wonder why we can't find a good way to market Toronto as a tourist city? Maybe they should think about that when we develop new areas with nothing but conventional condos, parks and offices. All of a sudden, "The Creative City" becomes the predictable city.
 
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Torontovibe said:
Does every place have to be an attraction? Are you serious? It's pretty well known that for a city our size, Toronto has very few tourist areas and attractions? I think the question should be can we start taking tourism seriously and start building a few great tourist areas. (and attractions) We have the whole Central Waterfront and almost none of it has any serious attractions except for Harbourfront. The area east of Yonge will not have one single tourist attraction or cultural venue. (no art galleries, no museums, no cultural centres) It will be just parks and condos, with a few office buildings thrown in for good measure. We have a huge waterfront and very major attractions on it, not to mention, an iconic building. Shouldn't a great waterfront have at least one iconic building on it? (or is that too much to ask from a "world class city"?) I think Toronto needs a lot more major attractions (especially on the waterfront) and tourist areas, not just for tourists but for Torontonians, like myself.
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Right-on, well said Tvibe
 
I am serious. Harbourfront is a huge attraction but sometimes people want to get away from the hustle and bustle and want some peace and quiet -- for some people, THAT is an attraction too which is why the Music Garden is popular as are HT0 and Sugar Beach. Maybe it should be another urban beach.

I didn't say there shouldn't be attractions, I just don't think the waterfront has to be wall-to-wall attractions. Given the proximity to the airport and parking/traffic issues, the school that is located there, and resulting somewhat awkward access, I'm not sure that that particular location is well suited to being a major attraction that you're thinking of.
 
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