thettctransitfanatic
Senior Member
Well, maybe another one of the many automobile gods...
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Well, maybe another one of the many automobile gods...
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Allandale25
Senior Member
TransitBart
Senior Member
If only because the construction is bloody (thought of dropping an f bomb) brutal. Go construction guys, go!
Kyle Campbell
Active Member
Not sure, but kind of looks like the Trams I rode in Istanbul.
Coolstar
Senior Member
Hey in the underground portion I heard they'll be using ATC. Does it mean it's automated?
steveintoronto
Superstar
Short answer: No. ATO and ATC are distantly related but not the same.
robmausser
Senior Member
It has to be.
CBTC is a combination between driver input and computer control.
ATC is 100% computer controlled.
I guess the drivers will have their lunch break while in the tunnels.
Although with driverless car tech around the corner, I'm sure the entire line will become completely automated in the not too distant future. Its easier to make an LRT on a track driverless than a car with wheels that has to steer.
steveintoronto
Superstar
Automatic train operation (ATO), control (ATC) & protection (ATP)
BY HEBA SOFFAR · PUBLISHED AUGUST 24, 2016 · UPDATED FEBRUARY 27, 2019
The automatic train operation (ATO) is the operational safety enhancement device used to help automate the operations of trains, It is used on automated guide-way transits and rapid transit systems that are easier to ensure safety of humans, Most systems elect to maintain the driver (train operator) to mitigate the risks associated with the failures or the emergencies.
A lot of modern systems are linked with the automatic train control (ATC) and in many cases with the automatic train protection (ATP) where normal signaller operations such as the route setting and the train regulation are carried out by the system.
ATO and ATC/ATP systems will work together to maintain the train within the defined tolerance of its timetable, Combined system will adjust the operating parameters such as the ratio of power to coast when moving and station dwell time to bring the train back to the timetable slot defined for it.
Automatic train control (ATC)
The automatic train control (ATC) is the general class of train protection systems for the railways which involves the speed control mechanism in response to the external inputs, There are many different safety systems labeled as the automatic train control.
ATC systems tend to integrate various cab signalling technologies and they use more deceleration patterns in the lieu of the rigid stops encountered with the older automatic train stop technology, ATC can be used with the automatic train operation (ATO) and it is considered to be the safety-critical part of the system.
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https://www.online-sciences.com/robotics/automatic-train-operation-ato-control-atc-protection-atp/
BY HEBA SOFFAR · PUBLISHED AUGUST 24, 2016 · UPDATED FEBRUARY 27, 2019
The automatic train operation (ATO) is the operational safety enhancement device used to help automate the operations of trains, It is used on automated guide-way transits and rapid transit systems that are easier to ensure safety of humans, Most systems elect to maintain the driver (train operator) to mitigate the risks associated with the failures or the emergencies.
A lot of modern systems are linked with the automatic train control (ATC) and in many cases with the automatic train protection (ATP) where normal signaller operations such as the route setting and the train regulation are carried out by the system.
ATO and ATC/ATP systems will work together to maintain the train within the defined tolerance of its timetable, Combined system will adjust the operating parameters such as the ratio of power to coast when moving and station dwell time to bring the train back to the timetable slot defined for it.
Automatic train control (ATC)
The automatic train control (ATC) is the general class of train protection systems for the railways which involves the speed control mechanism in response to the external inputs, There are many different safety systems labeled as the automatic train control.
ATC systems tend to integrate various cab signalling technologies and they use more deceleration patterns in the lieu of the rigid stops encountered with the older automatic train stop technology, ATC can be used with the automatic train operation (ATO) and it is considered to be the safety-critical part of the system.
[...]
https://www.online-sciences.com/robotics/automatic-train-operation-ato-control-atc-protection-atp/
Coolstar
Senior Member
Ah I see
Coolstar
Senior Member
So it'll similar to what's been going on with the signal upgrades on line 1
Looking west along Eglinton yesterday evening, from just west of Victoria Park:
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felix123
Active Member
I doubt that, because the SRT could technically be operated driverless as it is in Vancouver, but the TTC has to this day opted to operate it with drivers.
DatTranzitGuy
Active Member
Does anyone think that maybe the Eglinton line might provide a bit of relief to the busy Bloor Danforth line?
crs1026
Superstar
A bit, certainly....but not so much to eliminate the overcrowding at the key transfer points.
There will be people coming to/from Scarborough, for instance, who will be able to come across Eglinton and transfer to nort-south buses, who today have to ride Line 2 for that trip. But if one is headed downtown, Crosstown won’t help you bypass those key transfer spots.
- Paul