Coolstar
Senior Member
Very funny..... The photo though did show the renderings about the digital boards related to your earlier post.
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TossYourJacket
Senior Member
Metrolinx will probably pretend this thing is gonna open in September 2021 until October 1st of that year. They're so absurdly full of crap when it comes to anything relating to transparency.
TossYourJacket
Senior Member
Yup. Ottawa's LRT was supposed to only be like a 6 month delay at first. Ended up being much longer.
crs1026
Superstar
Truth will be a pretty scarce commodity this year. The likelihood of delay is well understood and the overspend is pretty minor on a project of this scale. The real damage is to the whole idea of P3.and to ML’s credibility in monitoring and enforcing them.
ML has a contract that calls for delivery in Sept 2021 and for contractual/legal reasons they will have to insist on that date. But the more they insist on talking to that date, when it can’t happen, the more impotent and in denial they will sound.
Oh yeah, don’t forget....the contract has thirty years’ worth of maintenance included. Nothing like suing the party you will be dealing with for decades to come.
- Paul
ML has a contract that calls for delivery in Sept 2021 and for contractual/legal reasons they will have to insist on that date. But the more they insist on talking to that date, when it can’t happen, the more impotent and in denial they will sound.
Oh yeah, don’t forget....the contract has thirty years’ worth of maintenance included. Nothing like suing the party you will be dealing with for decades to come.
- Paul
Steve X
Senior Member
ML: ignore internal report. Fake news
Reality: crosslinx still picking up dirt at many station
I think we're more surprised they are aware of it but they'll tell you everything is going as plan. We'll do the same for the Ontario line.
Reality: crosslinx still picking up dirt at many station
I think we're more surprised they are aware of it but they'll tell you everything is going as plan. We'll do the same for the Ontario line.
rbt
Senior Member
I'm concerned they'll start mentioning damages for delays in the press as aggressively as they did with Bombardier and the price for GO Expansion (OnCorr contract) will go up 15% (a couple billion).
Having your named dragged through the press for several years is far more damaging than the late delivery fees.
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TransitBart
Senior Member
We are getting a whole new line. The first since 2002 and Line 4. And this one actually goes somewhere (Aside: other than to North York MEC which is at Bessarion Station.)
It's 19km long and includes five interchanges from day one. Stop quibblin'. This is only a bump in the road. There will be more along the way. Hold on to your hats.
It's 19km long and includes five interchanges from day one. Stop quibblin'. This is only a bump in the road. There will be more along the way. Hold on to your hats.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
What costs $12.2 Billion?
TransitBart
Senior Member
Line 5 construction.
Streety McCarface
Senior Member
I think you mean 5.3 billion...
NoahB
Active Member
5.3 billion for constriction... 12.2 Billion in total cost including maintenance over 30(I think) years.
After what the Ontario Gov did to hamilton. The media is now reporting the total contract cost instead of just parroting Metrolinx's capital cost. I love it.
Streety McCarface
Senior Member
Even then, 12.2 billion sounds completely off. I recall the contract being 9.1 billion dollars.
/https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/gta/transportation/2015/11/03/91b-crosstown-lrt-mega-contract-comes-in-under-estimates/bwtunnel037.jpg)
$9.1B Crosstown LRT mega-contract comes in under estimates
The deal with Crosslinx includes 30 years of maintenance for the new transit line.
Steve X
Senior Member
It depends if it's 2010 dollars, 2019 dollars or 2051 dollars (30 years after expected completion).Even then, 12.2 billion sounds completely off. I recall the contract being 9.1 billion dollars.
$9.1B Crosstown LRT mega-contract comes in under estimates
The deal with Crosslinx includes 30 years of maintenance for the new transit line.www.thestar.com
WislaHD
Superstar
It is pretty disingenuous.
Nobody buys a car thinking about the 30 year operating cost of said vehicle.
Allandale25
Senior Member
CP24 report. It contains a little bit more information on the "report the Star got their hands on".
www.cp24.com
Metrolinx says Crosstown LRT is on track
Anne Marie Aikins says Metrolinx is working to keep the Eglinton Crosstown LRT on track despite a report that it says it could be delayed.
www.cp24.com