11th
Senior Member
Or re-grade the entire intersection - eastbound and westbound Eglinton, and Leslie all raised. LRT stop will then be in some sort of a trench.
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MrGoose
Active Member
Is it too late to just have two separate lines? One running on surface between Don Mills and Kennedy and extending the underground portion to Kennedy?
north-of-anything
Active Member
Far too late. Also, why duplicate service EAST of Don Mills?
kd86
New Member
. This all could have been avoided had the line remained 'below-grade' to Don Mills. I find it funny that the same people that advocated to keep the route on the surface will likely be same group people 'crying foul' if these trees are removed or even relocated.
Almost 300 trees are being cut down in a Toronto neighbourhood and residents aren't happy
Construction on the Crosstown LRT will stop for nothing — not a pandemic, and certainly not a ravine filled with trees. Over the past week, scores o…www.blogto.com
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Thoughts?
I don't think this is as big of an issue as the article editorializes.
Voltz
Senior Member
They also caused themselves a great deal of construction disruption, with the launch shaft, portal reducing the road to one lane each way, and the intersection at Leslie being quite blocked up.
MrGoose
Active Member
Why wasn't the Leslie Station grade separated?
H4F33Z
Active Member
Cost issues. They were planning to actually scrap Leslie Station. but the councillor and residents voice, it was negotiated to just a surface stop.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
Just me or do none of these look anywhere close to completion?
rbt
Senior Member
They're not going to hit the original 2020 date, that's for sure.
Opening 2022 (current target) doesn't seem unreasonable; though I expect Yonge/Eglinton station will still have some work ongoing in 2024.
robmausser
Senior Member
While I think transit planners should push for this to be changed, bureaucratically right now as it stands, its out of their hands.
Signal priority is determined by the department of Traffic Systems Operations in Toronto, and they are a very old school pro-car crowd of people.
What needs to happen is that signal priority needs to be handed off to a third party in the city that decides based upon empirical evidence of whats best for all transit users.
hw621
Senior Member
Which means this bunch of people will lose their power, budget and even their jobs...
robmausser
Senior Member
It will only change when the "pre-2000's Toronto" boomers who run this city die.
They are part of a group that understand Toronto from the context of when we used to cheers to the Queen when we drank at bars on the Esplanade. When parking lots filled the city. When Dundas Square was nothing more than a bunch of clothing stores. Not the megacity we are today.
Their Toronto is long but dead but they desperately hold onto these old ways.
robmausser
Senior Member
Bunching in the tunnel at Laird, here we come!!
H4F33Z
Active Member
I have a feeling that Leslie will become grade seperated in the 2030s. Not just because of the intersection itself but also because it would much more reasonable to short-turn vehicles at Don Mills (Science Centre). Also with OL and RLN. It's kind of a necessity.
I never thought a city-changing LRT costing billions of dollars is actually being held up by the cars who we thought that LRT's were supposed to have priority over
I never thought a city-changing LRT costing billions of dollars is actually being held up by the cars who we thought that LRT's were supposed to have priority over