Undead
Senior Member
I don't think so.
Mhm, I could say the same about your response to my response? I stand by what I said, but I don't want to continue this tangent.
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allengeorge
Senior Member
Jeez - in winter the.choice of monochromatic trains feels even less inspired.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
christiesplits
Senior Member
The cost of the entire Crosstown is projected around $13 billion.
How much more expensive would the line be if it were totally underground, and used subway cars like Line 1 and 2? Are there up to date costs comparisons per kilometer between LRT and subway?
How much more expensive would the line be if it were totally underground, and used subway cars like Line 1 and 2? Are there up to date costs comparisons per kilometer between LRT and subway?
robmausser
Senior Member
Its literal winter camo. People are gonna get struck by these trains and be like "I didnt see it coming. All I saw was grey sky, white snowout and dark slush coming towards me"
Darwinkgo
Active Member
Just have to look at Scarborough or the Younge extensions. That being said even the Ontario Line is spiralling too.
Underground stations are expensive. Larger underground stations are even more expensive. As they grow the price doesn’t grow in a linear way, just as the cost of a clear span bridge doesn’t grow in a linear way. Span twice the distance, a beam needs to have 4 times the strength.
You can count on it being more if built to the standards of past TTC subway extensions. But then you have to think on what extra features would be scoped in if it was considered a subway, like no fare check transfers, loops, extra circulation space.
IMO every single one of the recent, under construction, and proposed projects are victim of tremendous scope creep, and catering to local interests—and to be frank, some urbanists who view every project not built as full blown subways as a betrayal.
There needs to be a cost reckoning - and some government will eventually rip the elevated bandaid off which we will all be better for.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
How about using this paint on the light rail vehicles?
Towered
Superstar
40 years later...TRON is a reality!
crs1026
Superstar
^Never mind the trams, they need to put that stuff on the tunnel portals…… because, well, motorists….
- Paul
- Paul
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Which of the lovely fifty shades of grey did they settle on for the station?
nfitz
Superstar
From the video of them running through all of the stations, looked more like 50 shades of white. Really disappointing - and presumably won't age well, as it will show all the dirt.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Saw this on Twitter. Looks like the Crosstown will have 5G cellular connectivity for riders underground. Separate system from the TTC.
nfitz
Superstar
I don't see any indication that it's a separate system (though surely it is). Presumably the same vendor could win both contracts.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
In the replies it’s implied. Plus, looks like Metrolinx is directly negotiating directly with carriers, so hopefully we avoid the TTC debacle.