pmacpherson68
New Member
If they are still more than a year out, there must be some major deficiencies that we haven’t heard about?
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TJ O'Pootertoot
Senior Member
Clearly there is a lot we haven't heard about, on several fronts.
Towered
Superstar
So actually July 2025 then.
cplchanb
Senior Member
seriously... how hard is it be to get that final 2%? why must they wait until everything is done?
can they not just skip the landscaping and non critical items and open asap? i cant imagine spending more than a year on finishing... ...
Towered
Superstar
Is a public inquiry justified here?
cplchanb
Senior Member
an inquiry will do nothing for this project... any blame will be assigned long after the coffers are filled and the contractors have walked away.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
If you look at the chart that was shared in the press conference where a date was expected to be announced, somehow with everything virtually built they are doing design signoff. That obviously is a big risk because that is almost like saying they aren't sure they built the right thing yet.
grammin
Active Member
At this point, from what I can see, I'd be stunned if they aren't operating by the summer at the latest. All the excuses are gone. All the major deficiencies we are aware of have been fixed, a while back. The water ingress has been solved according to reports. The list of deficiencies could be things as simple as a tile needs replaced or a window is broken. These things should not be holding up the opening of the line though. I'd expect all major construction items to be resolved before Christmas or they are hiding something from us. The trains are all burned in, I haven't heard anything wrong with the Alstom trains. The rails are fixed. What else? Systems are much easier to resolve as long as the process is effective and the problems aren't massive, which, given that train operating systems are commonplace, I wouldn't expect. Not like they haven't had time to design the system controls and refine them. Can't be so bad as to drive trains at operating speed from end to end for months and then suddenly it's so unsafe to do so it requires a major overhaul. Nah not buying it. Man you'd think this was the first ever underground train system ever built. Rant over
drum118
Superstar
As I noted, the cost of the legal battle over the LRV's has to be added to the budget regardless where the LRV's went or were removed.see im still not sure. is it over budget? the budget from 2010 was 12 billion right?
Province had no choice but to seek Bombardier substitute for Eglinton LRT: Del Duca | Toronto Star
“I refuse to stand idly by in this time of uncertainty,” said the minister of transportation. “From my perspective it’s essential that we take responsible action in order to ensure that we successfully deliver on our commitments to open these transit projects on time.”web.archive.org
can you count this in the budget?
IIRC some of theese went to the ion lrt
since that was 2017 and we havent heard anything since then, im skeptical that bombardier failed to deliver.
You are chasing 2 different budgets and which way you cut it, still over budget.
All tenders have a budget what the project may cost to help in awarding of an contract. Once that contract is awarded, it become the real budget. ML thought it should cost $12 Billion, but the tender said $9.1 Billion.
If you use both budget numbers and added all other cost to them, both will be over budget. ML is trying to defect the real increase cost by using the $12. Billion numbers with the real number sweep under the carpet.
Take both numbers and start adding all the extra cost that are known by adding them to them that will give you a number you are looking for to a point since not all extra cost are public known at this time.
rbt
Senior Member
Crosslinx asked that too. Metrolinx's response to their desire to open the line in early 2022 without Eglinton/Yonge station (through-running only, no stopping) has sent them to observing the letter of the contract.
It annoys me that the stairs to Eglinton from ET Seaton Park are blocked off due to this crap.
Richard White
Senior Member
toronto647
Active Member
What does this article say?
toronto647
Active Member
I wonder whether other news outlets will pick this up... I can't wait for them do so. More drama lol
If the date is already leaked then Vester has no option but to announce the date at its next update.
crs1026
Superstar
That's not how "leaks" work.
The unofficial report, if believed by readers, has removed any expectation of an opening in spring or summer. Or even fall.
Verster can now stick to silence. The "leak" has bought him a year.
- Paul
APTA-2048
Senior Member
Metrolinx has started to do video tours of the stations and stops.