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^they should add Warden to be grade separated. Anyone who has seen them at busy intersection would agree.
 
Hopkins123 said:
Again, I reiterate the glaring obvious that at the very least the Leslie, Wynford and Victoria Park stations ought to be grade separated. With so much focus on the central tunneled section, I hope that they will address this matter when the eastern portion finally starts construction.
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I definitely think Leslie should be. That'd mean they wouldn't have to turn back trains until Don Mills. I'm unfamiliar of the area further east though, so I can't comment.
 
What is needed?

I used to think that about 400m or so of tunnel would have to be torn up to move the alignment to the south side.
Thinking a bit more, I think it may be possible to leave the current portal and elevate the line just as Eglinton descends above the Don River.
  1. I don't think you can curve to the south side before the bridge, so the centre +/-6m of the bridge (1 lane in each direction) would have to be demolished so that piers could be constructed in that area, with columns that go through this gap to carry the elevated track. (Each of the bridges would be widened by 1 lane - maybe a bit more for bike lanes).
  2. Just east of the bridge, the track would curve to the south side so that the Leslie station would be just south of the T intersection.
  3. From there, its easy enough to go at grade, either punching some tunnels through the CPR embankment, or curving a bit more south and sneaking under the end span of the railway bridge.
  4. The IBM loop ramp would have to be removed (and changed to more of a diamond interchange).
  5. Ideally, the Don Mills station would be moved more to the SW corner (and the bus station placed there) since the line would have to climb to elevate over the DVP.
In terms of cost, the bridge to Leslie (about 400m) would cost $50M, the road bridge widening $5M, about $40M for a Leslie station, about $10M to get past the CPR, $5M to redo the IBM interchange. The 1.5km over DVP to Wynford would be about $150M, and $40M for a Wynford Station, another $150M to get to Vic Park and $50M for its station. Total - maybe $500M
 
johntauren said:
It's actually over at Commerce, so yes that would make Renforth fairly superfluous.
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Okay gotchya. I didn't realize the setup. You'd think the Renforth Gateway would have been at Renforth Drive. I guess Commerce Gateway would sound like some business park or shopping centre, not a unique hub name.
 
City staff clarified yesterday that their mandate to work with Mississauga and GTAA on planning the west line beyond Renforth to the Airport area includes negotiating cost sharing with Mississauga and GTAA.

I suspect the higher ridership numbers we are now seeing assume the line serves the Airport area.

I wonder what happens if these bodies just say "Thanks, but no thanks" to cost sharing.

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
City staff clarified yesterday that their mandate to work with Mississauga and GTAA on planning the west line beyond Renforth to the Airport area includes negotiating cost sharing with Mississauga and GTAA.

I suspect the higher ridership numbers we are now seeing assume the line serves the Airport area.

I wonder what happens if these bodies just say "Thanks, but no thanks" to cost sharing.

- Paul
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GTAA won't as they have expressed their ambition to make Pearson a major transit hub. Besides, why is city council continues to act like they own the line? They don't, they will just operate and since Hurontario and Eglinton LRTs are both provincial, I doubt Mississauga will have much say in the end.
 
Cobra said:
GTAA won't as they have expressed their ambition to make Pearson a major transit hub. Besides, why is city council continues to act like they own the line? They don't, they will just operate and since Hurontario and Eglinton LRTs are both provincial, I doubt Mississauga will have much say in the end.
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Unless the extension requires municipal funding (unlike the Crosstown as is). Not sure if the province is in the mood for 100% funding after this last round.

AoD
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Unless the extension requires municipal funding (unlike the Crosstown as is). Not sure if the province is in the mood for 100% funding after this last round.

AoD
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Do we know what happened to the Brampton-Main street LRT funds? Perhaps it could be used to bring the Crosstown to the Airport.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Airport = Federal. Conjecture on my part - how can one justify Federal involvement and play with their priorities?

AoD
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Yes I know, the scenario is assuming that the GTAA is still interested in the transit hub for Pearson where they envisioned Finch going there as well.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Airport = Federal. Conjecture on my part - how can one justify Federal involvement and play with their priorities?

AoD
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The airport is federally regulated and is of federal interest, but Crosstown is not proposed on federal land, save for a station at Terminal 1. It would make sense that Ontario is a major funding partner, but it would justifiably call for the feds to be the other partner.
 
All routes at Skymark Hub will relocate to serve Renforth Gateway Station, along with GO Transit, by July of 2017. From link.

From link.
Mississauga Transitway: Renforth Gateway
May 16, 2016: We are only a little more than a year out from the scheduled opening of Renforth Gateway and construction is underway. Soon you will see the structure begin to take shape and the final roadway connections being made. Eglinton Ave at the Airport Corporate Centre is a hub of activity with construction well underway at the new Spectrum and Oribitor stations.

Renforth Gateway is the twelfth and final station and is scheduled to open a few months after Winston Churchill, Spectrum and Orbitor stations open in the spring of 2017. Renforth Gateway will be serviced by both MiWay and GO Transit and offer customers direct connections to the Toronto Pearson International Airport and the Bloor-Danforth subway line (TTC Islington Station). As part of the MiWay Five Transit Service Plan, MiWay is planning 22 buses an hour during peak periods – getting you to the places you want to go. When fully operational, east to west travel across Mississauga on the transitway will be reduced from 32 to 42 minutes to an estimated 20 minutes in 2017. And remember, there is no additional cost for you to ride on the transitway!
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There would be buses going to the Kipling station, but with the Crosstown West LRT, I would expect some to make use of the LRT instead.
 
Hopkins123 said:
The 11 stop option is far superior to the 17 stop one. Mulham, Russell Valley, Wincott, Widdicombe Hill, Rangoon and even Renforth are superfluous.
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these stops are ridiculous - it will look like st clair. With the new streetcars, due to close spacing, at front door you will be at one stop yet at the back doors at previous stop.
 
Palma said:
these stops are ridiculous - it will look like st clair. With the new streetcars, due to close spacing, at front door you will be at one stop yet at the back doors at previous stop.
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The 11 stop arrangement is broadly similar to BD station spacing (i.e. major intersections)- and we are dealing with shorter trains.

AoD
 
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