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TOtramz said:
2/3 of the operators had 30 days training.....

meaning 2/3 of operators finished the first training class or 2/3 finished the second class?
It's so vague which 30 day program they are referring to.
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2/3 of operators have completed their training. 1/3 completed their training in the first class, the next 1/3 completed their training in the second class. IIRC the last 1/3 will complete their training after they complete training on the Finch West LRT vehicles
 
jordanmkasla2009 said:
2/3 of operators have completed their training. 1/3 completed their training in the first class, the next 1/3 completed their training in the second class. IIRC the last 1/3 will complete their training after they complete training on the Finch West LRT vehicles
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So the last 1/3 won't be completing their training for a long while because the TTC currently has limited access to the Finch LRT due to legal reasons.

Also, are you sure 1/3 completed during the second class? Smallspy said that the second class was cancelled and had not continued.

Still hoping for a 2025 opening 🤞
 
jordanmkasla2009 said:
2/3 of operators have completed their training. 1/3 completed their training in the first class, the next 1/3 completed their training in the second class. IIRC the last 1/3 will complete their training after they complete training on the Finch West LRT vehicles
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Except that two-thirds of the operators haven't completed their training. One-third - those of the first set of classes - have completed it, the next third - those in the second set of classes when the signal system decided to take its leave - need to finish the in-seat portion of their training before they are considered fully ready to go.

It is expected that this second group of operators will be able to complete their training after the third set of classes of operators completes their own training. Which hopefully will also include training on the Finch West line, that is correct. But right now things are so up in the air that no one is able to predict when training will be able to restart.

Dan
 
smallspy said:
Except that two-thirds of the operators haven't completed their training. One-third - those of the first set of classes - have completed it, the next third - those in the second set of classes when the signal system decided to take its leave - need to finish the in-seat portion of their training before they are considered fully ready to go.

It is expected that this second group of operators will be able to complete their training after the third set of classes of operators completes their own training. Which hopefully will also include training on the Finch West line, that is correct. But right now things are so up in the air that no one is able to predict when training will be able to restart.

Dan
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I'm just going by what was said in the Toronto Star article linked earlier.
 
smallspy said:
Except that two-thirds of the operators haven't completed their training. One-third - those of the first set of classes - have completed it, the next third - those in the second set of classes when the signal system decided to take its leave - need to finish the in-seat portion of their training before they are considered fully ready to go.

It is expected that this second group of operators will be able to complete their training after the third set of classes of operators completes their own training. Which hopefully will also include training on the Finch West line, that is correct. But right now things are so up in the air that no one is able to predict when training will be able to restart.

Dan
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Is this an extraordinary amount of down time for a signalling system? As far as I understand, the previous glitches in the signalling software were fixed in a reasonable timeframe.
 
TOtramz said:
Is this an extraordinary amount of down time for a signalling system?
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Just a guess, but previous glitches may have been in the configuration of the software for this specific deployment - connecting to the actual signals and switches, laying out the human-machine interface - things that only require changes to configuration files. But, after the system crashed, they now have to find out what caused the crash, revisit the programming code, recertify the software, reconfigure the software for Line 5, and only then start testing.
 
urbancog said:
Just a guess, but previous glitches may have been in the configuration of the software for this specific deployment - connecting to the actual signals and switches, laying out the human-machine interface - things that only require changes to configuration files. But, after the system crashed, they now have to find out what caused the crash, revisit the programming code, recertify the software, reconfigure the software for Line 5, and only then start testing.
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Maybe once they get the programmers who worked on the Y2K problem, they'll be able to complete it
 
Steve X said:
They probably all retired and wouldn’t even take the job.
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I worked on the Y2K problem. Afterwards, worked in New Jersey, when on 2001 9/11 happened. Retired afterwards.

PS. The mainframe programming work in New Jersey was for transferring the real computer programming overseas to India. Wonder if how of many actual programming for the software for the Crosstown LRT is being done here in Canada?
 
I think we have to assume the problems are more significant than readily fixable programming issues with signaling. If that was the issue - they would likely be happy to say so and lay out a plan to fix and get to operation. Therefore, I assume instead that the issue is much more challenging than that. Sufficiently challenging that the issue(s) remediation is in itself undefinable - but to be honest I am being (potentially excessively) skeptical and hopefully wrong.
 
Mr.Tang said:
I think we have to assume the problems are more significant than readily fixable programming issues with signaling. If that was the issue - they would likely be happy to say so and lay out a plan to fix and get to operation. Therefore, I assume instead that the issue is much more challenging than that. Sufficiently challenging that the issue(s) remediation is in itself undefinable - but to be honest I am being (potentially excessively) skeptical and hopefully wrong.
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Verster could barely bring himself to acknowledge that there were software bugs to be fixed in 2024. What makes you think they would happily lay out a public plan to fix the software issues?

I honestly hope there really isn't a construction related issue holding everything up though.

Does anyone have updates on which stations have been given occupancy permits from the city?
 
In all honesty, would it be so hard to retrofit the current surface platform canopies with at least one full glass enclosure/heater?? There are three of them.

Not all shelters on O-Train Line 2 (Ottawa) are heated, either. One is.

Yes the Valley Line/VIVA stops are better...

Homeless have ruined sliding doors on the Valley Line, and the incline elevator...

Edmonton learned with the Blatchford (Metro) extension, that you need to put card readers on the doors for the waiting rooms - so you have to scan your ARC card to gain access to them.

They also put their ticket machines under canopies, which we didn't.

Still hoping they eventually put faregates in their underground stations.
 
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