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I got the impression during the candidate debate that no one actually wanted to let Ford talk about infrastructure very much…(minus attacking the 401 tunnel)

Crombie made the odd comment asking why PCs aren’t investing in transit/saying her govt will, but whenever Ford started to respond “…. We’re investing $70B in tra-“ he’d get cut off by one or all of the opponents. No one wanted to let Ford say “biggest transit expansion in history”.

Ford deliberately kept his rhetoric at a high level about the economy and tariffs, so he didn’t initiate transit talk- but transit and the crosstown would be the easiest thing to turn back on the Liberals if it came up.
Capital transit investment is one of the few bright spots of Ford's premiership - Crosstown notwithstanding. I also think the Crosstown's problems would have happened all the same under a Liberal government - the problems have more to do with the contract structure set up under the Liberals and general incompetency at Metrolinx.

Communications about the Crosstown (or rather the complete lack of them) fall solely on Fords lap though.
 
So each operator will be able to operate on both lines in the future?
Eventually, that is the plan. It is like how the SRT was lumped in with the B-D, and so operators - were they trained on both - could operate on either.

But right now, the only operators trained on either are trained on the Eglinton line, so they will operate there first. The last set of classes will start on March 31st, and those operators may be trained on both lines but will certainly be trained on Finch West at the least.

And only once they are trained - along with everyone else at the TTC who needs specific training for the line - can the TTC begin their simulated service on that line.

Dan
 
Eventually, that is the plan. It is like how the SRT was lumped in with the B-D, and so operators - were they trained on both - could operate on either.

But right now, the only operators trained on either are trained on the Eglinton line, so they will operate there first. The last set of classes will start on March 31st, and those operators may be trained on both lines but will certainly be trained on Finch West at the least.

And only once they are trained - along with everyone else at the TTC who needs specific training for the line - can the TTC begin their simulated service on that line.

Dan
Just to confirm, does the TTC only need the first 2 sets of trained operators to operate the Eglinton line?
 
Eventually, that is the plan. It is like how the SRT was lumped in with the B-D, and so operators - were they trained on both - could operate on either.

But right now, the only operators trained on either are trained on the Eglinton line, so they will operate there first. The last set of classes will start on March 31st, and those operators may be trained on both lines but will certainly be trained on Finch West at the least.

And only once they are trained - along with everyone else at the TTC who needs specific training for the line - can the TTC begin their simulated service on that line.

Dan
Sounds like the signal issues are solved to the point where the training can continue then :D

Also I thought it was Finch West that was starting training at the end of March?
 
Can they actually operate full service though with only two classes, or will it be a "phased opening"? One of the reasons we still don't have Sunday service on line 2 here in Ottawa was an operator shortage
There are phases within the operating contract between the TTC and Metrolinx, but not in this context. The phases are more akin to headways and hours-of-service improvements over the term of the 30 year contract.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no clause within the contract that would allow the TTC to operate the service only on certain days of the week as Ottawa did.

So yes, it would seem that there are enough operators in the first two sets of classes alone to run service on day 1.

Dan
 
Is the TTC planning to continue the existing bus routes for any period of time after the line opens? I know the 34 will run the whole length of the route (I assume at a lower frequency than 34/32 today) I was just wondering if the TTC typically waits a couple months in case things go awry.
 
Is the TTC planning to continue the existing bus routes for any period of time after the line opens? I know the 34 will run the whole length of the route (I assume at a lower frequency than 34/32 today) I was just wondering if the TTC typically waits a couple months in case things go awry.
With the large change in routes, I don't see how they have any choice but to change the entire thing on Day 1. How would you deal with the ones that will change routings?

Which impacted bus route do you use?
 
Which impacted bus route do you use?
None, my visits to the GTA rarely go to Eglinton anymore, although I used to visit a family member at Yonge and Eglinton a lot.

I was just interested in the comparison, since the TTC is far more experienced opening lines than Ottawa how long it takes them to do it. I feel like we're doing it wrong over here.
 
Is the TTC planning to continue the existing bus routes for any period of time after the line opens? I know the 34 will run the whole length of the route (I assume at a lower frequency than 34/32 today) I was just wondering if the TTC typically waits a couple months in case things go awry.
It seems like the day the line opens, the new routing would be in place to connect to the new stations. I suppose they’ll make temporary adjustments if the opening day doesn’t align with the start of a board period. That was the case for the TYSSE too.
 

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