Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Probably costs a pretty
Which would be better? Lease at a lower price and get some revenue, or lease at nothing and get nothing?
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Which would be better? Lease at a lower price and get some revenue, or lease at nothing and get nothing?
crs1026
Superstar
There were certainly lots of trams running on Eglinton today when I was out that way. Pretty close to 5 minute headways. The PA announcements were on at the stations, and the platform signs accurately reported the time to next tram.
The grassy row is one big dandelion farm.
It is indeed difficult to spot an approachinig tram in the distance - maybe they ought to be painted red?
- Paul
The grassy row is one big dandelion farm.
It is indeed difficult to spot an approachinig tram in the distance - maybe they ought to be painted red?
- Paul
TOtramz
Active Member
Anything other than grey is heresy against the Metrolinx doctrine
Steve X
Senior Member
Coffee shops will definitely be more successful than Gateway. There’s no need to buy newspapers these days while low income people will avoid them.
We can see how well business runs at Pape or at Finch station. I welcome them.
Cyrobyte
New Member
What about GO trains?Anything other than grey is heresy against the Metrolinx doctrine
Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
Only because of history. I'm sure if Metrolinx was starting a commuter line today it would be in the standard grey and black.
A 6264
Active Member
I'm so old, I still think of TTC vehicle colours as being red and cream.
Mind_the_gap
Active Member
Aside from the South-Side alignment at Leslie, I'm equally annoyed they got rid of the "Michigan Lefts" that were originally planned, but Torontonians wouldn't understand...
(Good video)
Short of gates and proper TSP, these would've really helped.
Short of gates and proper TSP, these would've really helped.
bearcat
Active Member
I still don't understand why the south-side alignment didn't happen... I haven't been following the LRT construction closely in the past, does anyone have a definitive explanation?
CapitalSeven
Senior Member
Everyone in Toronto lit their hair on fire about the Michigan left idea and proclaimed it could never work, without every examining scientifically whether it could or not, or thinking up some tweaks that might improve it.
Voltz
Senior Member
The plan was going to be changed to build the tunnel all the way to Don Mills, since it was easier to launch the TBM's from there, plus the obvious benefits to the operations of the line. But the local community group loudly complained about losing the stop at Leslie, and it seemed like the Liberals were going to lose the upcoming election, so they had to revert back to the already planned alignment and award the construction contract for the eastern tunnels. Of course, the same community group then later complained about construction activity on the surface at the portal.
Yes, it should have been planned differently from the start, but they didn't.
drum118
Superstar
Nah, it would be black and blue or black and purple from been kick around. Then it could be any colour since they are colour blind.
bearcat
Active Member
That doesn't explain it though. Why does the Leslie stop require the LRT to run in the center of the road between the two portals and not on the south side? I understand the Leslie stop required the LRT to be on the surface there, but why couldn't the ends of the tunnels and exits from the portals be done with a slight curve to the south and have the LRT run on the south side so there is no conflict with with Eglinton & Leslie intersection. Is there some technical reason that could not be done?
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Steve X
Senior Member
The south side alignment would need an EA change and either there needs of a grade separated walkway plus elevator(s) to access each platform OR a traffic signal for pedestrian to cross the tracks.
One elevator is needed if they enter with a central platform.
If they really want to improve this intersection, they just need to excavate a tunnel under the intersection for left turning traffic.
They just need a tunnel shown in orange with a traffic signal at the south end either allow both direction. Regular traffic movement would stay on the surface shown in green. Block of track access shown in red. Finally a pedestrian bridge should be built in purple with 2 elevators/stairs to access the platforms. The tracks stay where they are.
One elevator is needed if they enter with a central platform.
If they really want to improve this intersection, they just need to excavate a tunnel under the intersection for left turning traffic.
They just need a tunnel shown in orange with a traffic signal at the south end either allow both direction. Regular traffic movement would stay on the surface shown in green. Block of track access shown in red. Finally a pedestrian bridge should be built in purple with 2 elevators/stairs to access the platforms. The tracks stay where they are.
bearcat
Active Member
My understanding why this station was planned to be cancelled was in part because the ridership was forecasted to be low. So I feel like a signalized crossing for pedestrians would have sufficed.
Yes, sure a tunnel like that is a way to fix it. Is that really easier then doing an EA change in the first place to not deal with it? I guess those are the more nuanced details I genuinely don't know.
Honestly I wonder if it is possible to elevate the LRT over Leslie instead, I am not sure if it would be too steep a climb from under the railway bridge to the east, but the intersection is downhill from the bridge, so perhaps not, maybe one day.
Who knows, maybe there will be some magical transit priority actually implemented on the line and none of this would be needed.
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