[nfitz]

Those subway network panels on the Rockets seem to have LEDs embedded for Line 2; a line they'll now probably never, ever run on.

Why would they not run TRs on Line 2 again? They've certainly run them on Line 2 before, in a pinch (and Line 3 used to flash then)!

 

[zang]

Why would they not run TRs on Line 2 again? They've certainly run them on Line 2 before, in a pinch (and Line 3 used to flash then)!

More based on the assumption the line's getting newer rolling stock, so why would the older stuff ever appear on the line? That said, I wasn't aware that they'd ever run on Line 2. Was there a stated reason for it?

 

[zang]

The line 2 lights light up when at a transfer station.

I'd forgotten about the blinking. That said, I believe they're addressable, meaning each station light can be individually lit.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

More based on the assumption the line's getting newer rolling stock, so why would the older stuff ever appear on the line? That said, I wasn't aware that they'd ever run on Line 2. Was there a stated reason for it?

back in the summer of 2016 TRs were being used on Line 2 to supplement service while many of the T1s had their HVAC systems replaced.

 

[nfitz]

More based on the assumption the line's getting newer rolling stock, so why would the older stuff ever appear on the line?

Deliveries of the new trains won't start until next decade. And it took them about 8 years to deliver the approximately 80 new train sets.

With the typical delays, etc., it could be pushing 2040 before all 70 of the new train sets are here. And if the Yonge North extension opens before the Line 2 extension, I wouldn't be surprised if the first trains end up on Line 1, as there's currently more spares for Line 2 than Line 1.

That said, I wasn't aware that they'd ever run on Line 2. Was there a stated reason for it?

In addition to those heat issues, where the TR usage was quite consistent for a few weeks; any time there's a problem with deploying trains from Greenwood, TR trains will appear on Line 2 to provide at least some service. There's been at least once incident where there was a problem in the tunnel connecting to the yard, in the early AM.

Before the TR trains came, it wasn't unusual to see T1 trains from Wilson on Line 2, and H cars on Line 1, during incidents.

I'd forgotten about the blinking. That said, I believe they're addressable, meaning each station light can be individually lit.

Yes, when I've ridden TR trains on Line 2, the lights behaved properly, as if they were on Line 2.

 

[Mind_the_gap]

Two years ago...

[...] I’m seriously wondering what the TTC intends to do with the ”Lite-Brite” maps on the TRs in the long-term. They can get away with it for now with Lines 5/6 (maybe even program the Eglinton/Cedarvale/Kennedy and Finch West station lights to flash). But for the Scarborough/Yonge North extensions, they don’t have the lights. I really wish they’d just replace them with R211/Mark V-style LCD-displays.

I really hope the TTC doesn’t just cheap out, and turn them off altogether.

They should sure as hell be able to make those interchange stations flash.

What annoys me is they printed those TR maps as if lights are supposed to appear behind Line 5/6 station/stops, fully knowing that they'll never be replaced.

They should've just left white dots like they did with the T1 Line 2 signs.

 

[A 6264]

In addition to those heat issues, where the TR usage was quite consistent for a few weeks; any time there's a problem with deploying trains from Greenwood, TR trains will appear on Line 2 to provide at least some service. There's been at least once incident where there was a problem in the tunnel connecting to the yard, in the early AM.

Question you would probably know the answer to: The Wikipedia article on Line 2, in the section titled "Depot", suggests the line isn't using the newest trains because they can't be stored at the Greenwood yard.
"The Greenwood Yard will be inadequate as it is completely full with no room to expand, and because its facilities are optimized for two-car train sets rather than the six-car train sets of the proposed new fleet."
From that, I gather that when T1 trains are put in the yard, they are broken down to 2-car groups, and that's why they can't hold the Rocket trains, or at least, not enough of them. Is all that still true?

 

[nfitz]

From that, I gather that when T1 trains are put in the yard, they are broken down to 2-car groups, and that's why they can't hold the Rocket trains, or at least, not enough of them. Is all that still true?

Pretty much, that's still true. Which is why the 70 new trains are designed to both have continuous walkways, and be broken down into 2-car groups (though obviously the centre group will have to be different - and the two end groups will have to be rotated in the correct direction). I wonder how much mix-and-matching the trains will have after a few decades of stuff happening.

 

[toronto647]

Assuming the RSD ends today, when would they:

a) Announce the opening date of the Eglinton LRT?
b) Actually open the Eglinton LRT?

I’m hoping it might open by Sunday, January 4, just in time for the new semester / back to work after the holidays —maybe even announced around Christmas as a bit of a holiday gift?

Love to hear your thoughts on a and b above

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Assuming the RSD ends today, when would they:

a) Announce the opening date of the Eglinton LRT?
b) Actually open the Eglinton LRT?

I’m hoping it might open by Sunday, January 4, just in time for the new semester / back to work after the holidays —maybe even announced around Christmas as a bit of a holiday gift?

Love to hear your thoughts on a and b above

The Julian calendar is currently 13 days behind the Gregorian calendar. So If we didn't convert to the Gregorian calendar by the British Calendar Act of 1751, we would still be in 2025.

 

[jordanmkasla2009]

Assuming the RSD ends today, when would they:

a) Announce the opening date of the Eglinton LRT?
b) Actually open the Eglinton LRT?

I’m hoping it might open by Sunday, January 4, just in time for the new semester / back to work after the holidays —maybe even announced around Christmas as a bit of a holiday gift?

Love to hear your thoughts on a and b above

if substantial completion is achieved by next week they could theoretically open it with the start of the next board period on December 21. More realistically they would open it on January 4 which is the start of the board period after next.

 

[nfitz]

if substantial completion is achieved by next week they could theoretically open it with the start of the next board period on December 21. More realistically they would open it on January 4 which is the start of the board period after next.

If it's ready to open on December 21 (and why wait until a board period - Line 6 didn't), then I can't imagine they'd for a second consider opening it in 2026 instead of 2025. The optics would be terrible if it slips another year.

 

[McGillicuddy]

There's more than one sort of optics, though. If Doug Ford wants lots of media attention at the event where he formally opens the line, he's not going to schedule it during a period when lots of people are travelling and ignoring the news. In this sense, I think you're dead on with December 21: I can imagine a blackout period from December 22 to January 4.

Mind you, if they think the line's going to be a flop, maybe opening it on a sleepy Sunday over the holidays is the best-case scenario. (And maybe Doug Ford won't be too eager to cut the ribbon himself.)

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

It will likely progress faster for this line as the TTC has no need to do an additional training class for operators for Line 5 as they did for Line 6

I was trying to tell someone that on Reddit, but they were convinced that it was an extra month that the TTC was testing the line and would be doing that with Eglinton as well

 

[Obsidian]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995500088236650952

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995500772478562309

So Finch LRT was handed over to the TTC ~Nov 3rd, reached substantial completion on Nov 21, which led (will lead) to an opening date of Dec 7.

So roughly about a month from handover to opening... Late Jan is a possibility for Eglinton

Substantial completion will happen 2 weeks earlier (1 week after RSD) on Eglinton than it did on Finch. So a 2025 opening is still in the cards.