TOareaFan said:
They have been consistent in saying "spring of 2017"....so that would be in the next two weeks.
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Here's the graphic version of that taken from the Fall 2017 open house presentation.
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drum118 said:
Unlike Toronto, Mississauga runs the city as a business and that started with Hazel. Given the fact that only 1,100 riders travel one way from Sq One to Cooksville at peak time today, it makes no sense to have a subway.

There is still a strong opposition to having an LRT since it taking road space from drivers and no room for future growth for more drivers. At the same time, these folks are saying why stop at only one line and not having more?
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So Toronto property taxes should be raised to match Mississauga (& Peel Region)'s?
 
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crs1026 said:
The latest rumour running around CP employees in Southern Ontario - and I stress it is no more than that, so far - is that CP is exploring with CN the option of rerouting its main line running over CN from Woodstock to Komoka.

The alleged reason for this - which may be a little closer to a fact we can place credence on - is that CP's large bridges in the London area are reaching end of life and need some very expensive refurbishment. That, plus the potential real estate value of the Quebec St yard, and elimination of the problemmatic grade crossings at Adelaide and Richmond Streets in central London.

Interestingly, CP's recent investment in new signalling along the line (PTC will arrive eventually, and the existing ABS signalling between Guelph Jct and Windsor is ancient and likely hard to find parts for) omits the Woodstock-Komoka segment. Just enough to look like some dots lining up.

It's possible (a conspiracy theory, but one that CP management isn't above earning) that this scenario has been leaked deliberately to scare CP employes into some concession that would preserve London as a terminal. The rumour has been circulating for some time that CP would like to extend its running territories and move the London terminal east to Wolverton, and then move the current Agincourt terminal further east as well. Or, this may just be sandhouse speculation.

Anyways, if nothing other than a brain teaser, one wonders what impact this would have on VIA. It would make the CN line through London more congested, which could affect schedules, timeliness, and potential to add more VIA trains. All of which could be solved with money, of course. It also makes possible a dedicated VIA route through London, if VIA were to buy the current CP line, and move its London depot up Richmond Street. Who knows if this would actually be in VIA's interests, or if the City of London would favour this.

Again, just rumour, but more fun to analyse than cycling back through Scarborough SRT replacement options, or when the next Flexity will be delivered.

- Paul
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Raul said:
Anyone know when to expect the RFP to be out?
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TOareaFan said:
They have been consistent in saying "spring of 2017"....so that would be in the next two weeks.
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Allandale25 said:
Here's the graphic version of that taken from the Fall 2017 open house presentation.
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Latest news from the twitter account is "summer 2017". Link: https://twitter.com/HurontarioLRT/status/867382200106459136
 
drum118 said:
Unlike Toronto, Mississauga runs the city as a business and that started with Hazel. Given the fact that only 1,100 riders travel one way from Sq One to Cooksville at peak time today, it makes no sense to have a subway.

There is still a strong opposition to having an LRT since it taking road space from drivers and no room for future growth for more drivers. At the same time, these folks are saying why stop at only one line and not having more?
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Clearly Irishmink's sarcasm is easily lost on you.
 
Irishmonk said:
Mississaugans are sure going to feel like second class citizens once this LRT project starts operating. Surely a one stop subway from, say, Cookesville to Sqaure One would better allow them to retain their dignity.
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Standard UT Scarborough bashing. Whats the point?


If Scarborough was offered a direct line from Lake Ontario to Markham and refused it you would have a point. Unfortunately a direct comparison has never been offered, Its a completely different line. This LRT is a North-South seamless line more similar to the full Eglinton LRT going East-West which is highly supported in Scarborough. Scarborough has requested to have it main Centre connected seamlessly to the existing infrastructure in its own City.

Also, dont kid yourself Mississauga is already lobbying and surely will be getting a subway extension to its City Centre far down the road. Surely they will likely get intermediate stops and have no internal interference preventing it or making the same divisive "holier than thou" banter fighting to hack in transfers in poorly placed locations. The amount of quality transit infrastructure in Mississauga is already far above what has been built in Scarborough. And this LRT is just one major piece of growing the bigger picture for Sauga.

Its reasonable to question the current subway plan. But the constant mockery and false comparisons are not necessary or helpful.
 
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W. K. Lis said:
So Toronto property taxes should be raised to match Mississauga (& Peel Region)'s?
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Apologies for the tangent to this thread but, Yes. Please. For those of us with homes in Toronto we've seen a phenomenal run-up in values. Paying $1000 more per year, per household, is a pittance relative to the increase in value. We are realizing a huge benefit by owning a home in these times here in Toronto. We should give something back to our City .

Any increase in tax should be directed solely at capital projects (ie transit, infrastructure upgrades, housing) that can be passed down to future generations as an asset. My preference is the funds would go primarily to transit, the DRL long in particular...
 
Materials from the most recent Hurontario LRT open houses (held in Mississauga) are posted, along with some new and beautiful renderings.
Maps and renderings:

Map of future Mississauga Transit network:

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Cooksville GO:
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Britannia:
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Funny that they are all Flexitys when they bought Alstom Citadis that can possible be on the line. I think chances for Flexitys on this LRT is pretty slim. Either BBD delivers and the Citadis are allocated on this line or BBD doesn't deliver and ML buys more Citadis.
 
This must be on a faster schedule than Finch West LRT. They have not yet announced who will build Finch even though the teams were shortlisted in Feb 2016.
 
Coruscanti Cognoscente said:
Total fail on Brampton's part regarding the location of the Steeles stop.
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I don't have a view on the solution - but here's the issue. Because the LRT will terminate at Steeles rather than further north, every LRT passenger will be required to alight and transfer to some other route at that one stop. That means the pedestrian count projections for the Steeles-Hurontario intersection are inflated by the entire projected LRT ridership. The challenge for the transportation people is to design a traffic light configuration that gives enough time in the cycle for all those pedestrians to cross the intersection (twice, since virtually all will head for Gateway, which is a full diagonal). The numbers are high enough that the only viable solution is a pedestrian tunnel.

If the LRT were to continue further north - on any route, I'm not trying to ignite that debate - that number of pedestrians could be reduced from pedestrian flows at the intersection.

Perhaps the tunnel is desirable anyways for the long run, but here's an example of where COB's decision to not accept the LRT beyond Steeles has a tangible incremental cost.

- Paul
 
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