TheTigerMaster
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Anybody seriously think it will be built within 10 years?
I do. Or at least with construction well on the way to completion.
I'd be flabbergasted if it wasn't.
Anybody seriously think it will be built within 10 years?
I do. Or at least with construction well on the way to completion.
I do.Anybody seriously think the DRL will be anything but subway?
The fact that a 'metro' type of system wasn't mentioned is indicative of being Toronto. Nuff said. That's only for other world class and leading ones.Vehicle neutral for the Relief Line (North and South) was a presentation at the TTC Board Meeting, but only suggested Subway and Underground LRT. No mention of GO trains or electrified commuter train though.
Or just have crossovers on either end of the platform.The Gerrard Station would include some sort of transfer between the Relief Line and the 506 CARLTON streetcars. However, will it be a off-street at grade loop, like at the Main Station? An underground loop, like at the St. Clair West Station? An on-street paper transfer, like at Dundas Station? Or an on-street paid-area transfer, like in the days of the Bloor Station, before Line 2 came on the scene?
From link:
The TTC could order new streetcars with doors on both side of the streetcars, so that a single center transfer platform could be used, sharing single elevators, escalators, and stairs.
At least some Melbourne trams have doors on both sides, allowing for a central platform serving both directions.The Gerrard Station would include some sort of transfer between the Relief Line and the 506 CARLTON streetcars. However, will it be a off-street at grade loop, like at the Main Station? An underground loop, like at the St. Clair West Station? An on-street paper transfer, like at Dundas Station? Or an on-street paid-area transfer, like in the days of the Bloor Station, before Line 2 came on the scene?
From link:
The TTC could order new streetcars with doors on both side of the streetcars, so that a single center transfer platform could be used, sharing single elevators, escalators, and stairs.
Question: How will or should they go about building both relief line south and relief line north? Would it be better to start the TBMs somewhere along Carlaw and Queen and have them dig north and west from there, or would it be better for them to start near West of Queen and Bathurst and dig east then north from there, then continue digging to sheppard while the south stations get built? Or would it be better for 4 tbms to dig north and south from pape station?
+100%.Funny thing about all this is that if TransitCity was built like the "progressive" TTC fans wanted to stop the "anti-transit, pro-car", Ford & company suburbanites, the situation on the current subway lines would be even worse than it is now. One of TC's many faults was that it did nothing to relieve pressure on the current subway lines despite the lines funneling yet more passengers onto the current lines. The Don Valley, Kingston, Jane, and Finch LRT lines all end at a current subway station. A good idea but only if the current subways have the capacity to absorb all these new riders that TC was hoping to attract which of course they don't.
This is why Miller's myopic view of LRTs or nothing was just as childish as Ford's subways, subways, subways...........there is not such thing as a single transit technology that serves everyone. Miller can take his fair share of blame at the overcrowding of the current subway lines as he effectively said, let's get the people in the suburbs moving and worry about the downtown at some distant future despite being the fastest growing area of the city. Miller's controversial TC plan dominated transit planning and politics for a decade and thus moved the need of a DRL to the backburner and hence the situation that now besets the TTC and the city..........an overcrowded subway system which is going to begin to shrink ridership as people get so exasperated they abandon the TTC altogether.
I figure this applies only to riders who get on Eglinton between Wynford and Mount Pleasant. With ECLRT being on street in Scarborough - all those riders are basically still going to get to the B-D and transfer at Y-B.Eglington Cross town has some potential maybe to relieve Yonge and Bloor by diverting riders frustrated with Yonge to Spadina? DRL phase one? We’ll see in the near future. Our system has so little route redundancy it will be fun to actually see some coming on stream.
Edit: looking at W. K. Lis’s Map posting above I’m not sure too many but the most crowding sensitive passengers would take the extra time to travel West to Spadina.