picard102
Senior Member
Another fail from Ford.
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Brands
Active Member
Kathleen Wynne promised to finance the project during the final months of her government, however they did not receive federal funding.
Kathleen Wynne backs Toronto transit relief and SmartTrack plan - Toronto | Globalnews.ca
Premier Kathleen Wynne signed a memorandum of understanding on Mayor John Tory's SmartTrack plan and announced the province would support several other major transit projects.
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Kathleen Wynne backs Toronto transit relief and SmartTrack plan
By Kerri Breen 640 Toronto
Posted May 3, 2018 1:26 pm
Updated May 3, 2018 1:39 pm
At a press conference at the GO Transit Willowbrook maintenance facility Thursday morning, Wynne said the government would partially fund the Downtown Relief Line, the Yonge North subway extension and the Waterfront light rail transit service.
She said the funding was included in her Liberal government’s spring budget, tabled just months before a provincial election. The fiscal blueprint did not specify which infrastructure projects the money would be spent on.
The investment is $9 billion, though Wynne could not say how much was going to each project.
Civdis
Active Member
Love your posts Kotsy, a valued contributor, but I have to disagree with you here. We need a balance of highways and public transit. Interregional movement, commercial movement of goods etc, need highways and as we go more and more electric, the carbon footprint becomes less of an issue. I think Doug Ford has delivered both. He is spending way more on subways than highways don't forget.
Civdis
Active Member
The point is that the Liberals ran this province for a long time without getting anything substantial done. They can "commit" all they want. "" and "shovels in the ground" are two very different things. We have shovels in the ground now on 5 major transit projects in the GTA, not including the massive GO Transit investment. I cannot ever remember the Liberals having that level of activity in my 60 years on this planet.Kathleen Wynne promised to finance the project during the final months of her government, however they did not receive federal funding.
Kathleen Wynne backs Toronto transit relief and SmartTrack plan - Toronto | Globalnews.ca
Premier Kathleen Wynne signed a memorandum of understanding on Mayor John Tory's SmartTrack plan and announced the province would support several other major transit projects.
Kathleen Wynne backs Toronto transit relief and SmartTrack plan
By Kerri Breen 640 Toronto
Posted May 3, 2018 1:26 pm
Updated May 3, 2018 1:39 pm
At a press conference at the GO Transit Willowbrook maintenance facility Thursday morning, Wynne said the government would partially fund the Downtown Relief Line, the Yonge North subway extension and the Waterfront light rail transit service.
She said the funding was included in her Liberal government’s spring budget, tabled just months before a provincial election. The fiscal blueprint did not specify which infrastructure projects the money would be spent on.
The investment is $9 billion, though Wynne could not say how much was going to each project.
Civdis
Active Member
Sorry for going off-topic, I will stop now 
UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
...again, is all the whatabout'isms from parties that are not in power. /shrug
picard102
Senior Member
They provided funding in 2016. Design work was 15% complete when Ford canceled it. Another example of Doug Ford wasting public money for no reason.
Brands
Active Member
The Ontario line is vastly superior to the previous downtown relief line plan. Kathleen Wynne can talk all she wants about her "plans"
The fact of the matter is that shovels are in the ground for 5 transit projects in Toronto.
Doug Ford has built more transit in Toronto then the previous Liberal government built in 15 years.
The better question to ask is what transit projects in Toronto did the previous Liberal government build in their 15 years in power?
There is a difference between talk and getting shovels in the ground.
The fact of the matter is that shovels are in the ground for 5 transit projects in Toronto.
Doug Ford has built more transit in Toronto then the previous Liberal government built in 15 years.
The better question to ask is what transit projects in Toronto did the previous Liberal government build in their 15 years in power?
There is a difference between talk and getting shovels in the ground.
picard102
Senior Member
Thanks to the work done before Doug got elected.
Brands
Active Member
If these transit projects were left up to the city of Toronto to get built, they would never have seen the light of day. You should thank Doug Ford for taking over these projects.
kotsy
Senior Member
That's a fair argument but I think he could do a lot better. Having said that, enough with the side track
UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
While I can't speak for everyone, but I am not sure there's enough money to be had to pay me to...
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picard102
Senior Member
Good thing Metrolinx thought the DRL was a priority as well.
And before you spin another tale about how we should thank Ford for Metrolinx or some other revisionist nonsense, Metrolinx wasn't created by Ford.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
This is a bit revisionist - especially relating to rapid transit access to Ontario Place / Exhibition.
Prior to Ford:
1. The Relief Line was planned as an expensive, bloated project running only from Pape to Osgoode. No extension to Exhibition or Eglinton.
2. Eglinton west was planned as an above-ground LRT which was recieving heavy criticism for slow travel times which wouldn't have improved over existing bus travel times.
3. Yonge North was planned but going nowhere with no real work done on it in years
4. Scarborough Subway had been lurching along as a bloated, single-stop line with construction start constantly being pushed back
Now all four are under construction.
Love of hate Ford - his progress on actually building transit expansion in Toronto is nothing short of remarkable and will leave a generational impact on the city. It is by far the largest legacy of his government.
Relating to the relief line especially, a western extension of the line wasn't even on the City's radar. The city had effectively 0 plans to address poor mobility in the west end of downtown.
Northern Light
Superstar
It was not unusually expensive, and cheaper per Km than the Ontario Line.
An extension to Eglinton was being actively studied, Pape was the Phase 1 terminus.
Still hasn't. (beyond design and property). Real work should begin soon. Minus Cummer Station it would seem, and at vastly more per km than the previous iteration which has a better route.
Scarborough had loads of different iterations through time because of City Council and Mayoral hijinx......one of those Mayors was a fella with the name Ford......whose brother was on that Council.
Three.......... Yonge North cannot be described as under construction currently.
Disagree, nothing remarkable about it............... the Liberals before him started work on Crosstown, a 22km long project; they delivered the TYSSE and UPX, the Georgetown South GO upgrades, the 3rd track on Lakeshore East GO, 15-minute weekday service on Lakeshore GO (which we no longer have because of Ford's incredibly unwise move of building a joint corridor, which is a colossal, generational mistake, just like the REM / Mt. Royal tunnel in Montreal).
The diversion to Exhibition is also an incorrect move. Yes, eventually, the line should have gone further west, and it would have. But Ford chose the wrong Terminus.
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