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Oversight is one thing but he has several hundred senior and mid-level commanders under him. The bigger the strategic risk to an organization, the higher the oversight goes. It's no different with a police service or IBM. Maybe he knew. Maybe he should have known. Maybe he put his delegated faith in those under him.
 
tiffer24 said:
Toronto police chief unaware officers have been using controversial facial recognition software for months...

Toronto police said Thursday several of its officers were using a facial recognition software that has been under scrutiny due to privacy concerns.The use of the software, without the police chief’s knowledge, had gone on for months.

Toronto Police Service spokesperson Meaghan Gray said in an email to CP24 that some officers began “informally testing” Clearview AI in October last year before Chief Mark Saunders ordered it to stop.

“The Chief directed that its use be halted immediately upon his awareness, and the order to cease using the product was given on February 5, 2020,” Gray said.

It is not immediately known how and when Saunders became aware of the testing.

According to its website, Clearview AI offers law enforcement a tool to search a trove of public images that it has collected from the internet to help with investigations.

The company, which was founded in 2017 by Richard Schwartz and Hoan Ton-That, became a subject of a New York Times report last month, revealing that more than 600 law enforcement agencies, as well as a handful of companies, have been using Clearview.

“The tool could identify activists at a protest or an attractive stranger on the subway, revealing not just their names but where they lived, what they did and whom they knew,” the Times reported.

https://www.cp24.com/news/toronto-p...ial-recognition-software-for-months-1.4811400
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Did it work? Did TPS catch any bad guys with Clearview?
 
^ Apparently a one-for-one replacement is an increase. Who knew. Many who scream that this is a militarization probably don't want police to armed either (or probably the military as well). Peaceful resolution is the goal, but sometimes that doesn't happen despite best efforts.
 
Toronto is becoming a major city and as a result the need to police force to deal with any situation.
 
Admiral Beez said:
How does New York City afford 36,000 police officers when Toronto has less than 5,300?
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~8.6M vs ~3M people. There are also sites that show New York has a higher broad crime rate but I have no idea how those numbers are crunched.
 
lenaitch said:
~8.6M vs ~3M people. There are also sites that show New York has a higher broad crime rate but I have no idea how those numbers are crunched.
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At that ratio we should have at least double what we have. And I’d debate any claims of any low crime rate here. Torontoians have become accustomed to crime that we don’t call police unless it’s violence related or a property crime that requires an insurance claim, such as home break-in or car theft.

All day long we see other crimes ignored, such as vandalism, littering, Safe Streets Act violations, widespread traffic violations (speeding, rolling on stop signs, running reds and pedestrian crossings), jaywalking, shoplifting, public intoxication, open IV drug use, public drug dealings, sleeping in parks, public nuisance, etc, etc. All these crimes we just ignore in Toronto, but not in NYC, at least not in the parts of Manhattan I’ve frequently visited where it seems every corner has a police officer on foot, yes.... TPS, on foot! IDK why they issue TPS with boots seeing how infrequently they seem to be out of their cars or off their bikes.
 
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