What you're telling me is that ita the same complaints about any venture where so many people are gathered at once. Let's actually think about this. You have 15000+ people in this building. You're never going to have enough concessions to not have lineups. Ive never been to a large even where you don't have lineups. Same thing with getting home. They a lot of people that need to dispurse at the same time.


People like to complain.
 
FF407 said:
What you're telling me is that ita the same complaints about any venture where so many people are gathered at once. Let's actually think about this. You have 15000+ people in this building. You're never going to have enough concessions to not have lineups. Ive never been to a large even where you don't have lineups. Same thing with getting home. They a lot of people that need to dispurse at the same time.


People like to complain.
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Absolutely fair. The loudest voices online are the grumpiest ones, but it sounds like there is legitimacy to the in-building gridlock being especially bad. Looking forward to seeing for myself.
 
Copps had issues when it was at full capacity before the reno's - I went to one hockey game that actually sold the arena out pre-renovation and the concession level between periods was crush-load crowded to an almost unsafe level. Hopefully the new lower concourse helps with this to give more space for people to spread out, but as a whole I'm not surprised it's still a problem.

The thing is that Copps was very, very rarely sold out pre-renovations. The upper bowl was used pretty rarely, so the capacity issues cropped up pretty irregularly. It will probably get used more often now.. so hopefully they have it figured out. Even then though, a lot of the events scheduled at TD coliseum are not full capacity events.
 
innsertnamehere said:
Copps had issues when it was at full capacity before the reno's - I went to one hockey game that actually sold the arena out pre-renovation and the concession level between periods was crush-load crowded to an almost unsafe level. Hopefully the new lower concourse helps with this to give more space for people to spread out, but as a whole I'm not surprised it's still a problem.

The thing is that Copps was very, very rarely sold out pre-renovations. The upper bowl was used pretty rarely, so the capacity issues cropped up pretty irregularly. It will probably get used more often now.. so hopefully they have it figured out. Even then though, a lot of the events scheduled at TD coliseum are not full capacity events.
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Even McCartney was not the full in-the-round capacity. It was 13,000 and change.
 
BCTed said:
Even McCartney was not the full in-the-round capacity. It was 13,000 and change.
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That looks like it's the effective capacity of the facility for concerts looking at other major shows..

It's giving me 12,500 capacity for Jonas Brothers for example - and you can see how the back end of the arena isn't getting used.

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This is party why I was disappointed they didn't do more along the line of the Balsille proposal that would have seen a full second level concourse and the building turned into a rectangle shape, built out to the first floor outside wall all the way.

Mind you, it could be that crowds will need some time to learn about new areas to go to.

Maybe they need to have more gates available pre-show to help reduce lines for people getting in.
 
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