[drum118]

Test train at 5:20 am only to get delay by signal failure and not able to do the 2nd run. It went back at 5:55 am. 653 was pushing with 218 on point. Didn't have time to setup.
http://youtu.be/QvgT_Rty02k
http://youtu.be/IuyGllzkfz8

618 climbing out of the fly under
http://youtu.be/R7gCeCyLKAk


662 on point of the Mount Pleasant train and the first revenue train to use the new fly under
[video=youtube_share;7mD9wVOe8vA]http://youtu.be/7mD9wVOe8vA[/video]

 

[innsertnamehere]

Interesting info on ridership forecasts from a freedom of information request:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x4nlh56c...1Ng6a/Non-Confidential/MX_UPE0000008.0001.pdf

3.08 million riders by the 4th year, 10.3% ridership capture. (that is, 10.3% of Pearson's passengers are expected to use it)

Assumptions in the study include $20 fare.

Metrolinx is encouraged to seriously consider adding a third car to the trainsets, as capacity will be overblown opening year in August on peak hours (peak month), and will only get worse as time progresses.

 

[TOareaFan]

Pearson had a little more than 31 million passengers in 2010......so 3.08 is less than 10% of that number.....is the total dropping?

 

[rbt]

Pearson had a little more than 31 million passengers in 2010......so 3.08 is less than 10% of that number.....is the total dropping?

The summary on Page 26 explains these details (I was also confused).

It's a 2020 estimate and does not include connecting passengers. Also, not exactly 10%.

"40.8 million passengers are forecast to use LBPIA in 2020. Removing those transferring between planes leaves close to 30 million
surface access passengers. ... The ARL is forecast to carry 10.3% of the surface access market."

"In opening year we forecast that the ARL will carry 1.35 million passengers, with 2.97 million by 2018 when the system reaches
maturity. This is assuming a 65% ramp-up in the first year, which may be conservative given the Pan-Am Games in July 2015, just
three months after opening. By 2020 passenger numbers are forecast to reach 3.08 million with"

 

[TOareaFan]

The summary on Page 26 explains these details (I was also confused).

It's a 2020 estimate and does not include connecting passengers. Also, not exactly 10%.

"40.8 million passengers are forecast to use LBPIA in 2020. Removing those transferring between planes leaves close to 30 million
surface access passengers. ... The ARL is forecast to carry 10.3% of the surface access market."

"In opening year we forecast that the ARL will carry 1.35 million passengers, with 2.97 million by 2018 when the system reaches
maturity. This is assuming a 65% ramp-up in the first year, which may be conservative given the Pan-Am Games in July 2015, just
three months after opening. By 2020 passenger numbers are forecast to reach 3.08 million with"

Thx

 

[vegeta_skyline]

Metrolinx is encouraged to seriously consider adding a third car to the trainsets, as capacity will be overblown opening year in August on peak hours (peak month), and will only get worse as time progresses.

It's been discussed here and from what I've heard as well all train sets will be 3 cars each from the start. ML exercised the option for an additional 6 cars sets bringing the total up to 18 a while back. There will be 5 trains on the line continuous to maintain the 15 minute interval with the 6th train set on standby. Much in the same way as how 10 and sometimes even 12 pack GO trains are run all day, its highly unlikely that any train sets will differ in length since with 15 minute service, every set will cycle the line in 1 hour and 15 minutes. I don't know when Person experiences its peak traffic but surely it does not simply peak within individual hours but rather over the course of several hours. So having any one of the 5 trainset shorter in length during the peak would result in an capacity constraint. I also can't see them changing the length of trains over the course of the day since its far to time consuming to do so, especially considering how tight the schedule is. Aside from that the only additional cost to having a three car set vs two would be fuel since each car is powered. Though even that cost could be practically eliminated if they could turn off the individual engines, providing the train sets can maintain the schedule without said power. Perhaps doing so in off peak times when there are less passengers/less weight and therefore a greater power to weight ratio all 3 units need not be running.

 

[reaperexpress]

It's been discussed here and from what I've heard as well all train sets will be 3 cars each from the start. ML exercised the option for an additional 6 cars sets bringing the total up to 18 a while back. There will be 5 trains on the line continuous to maintain the 15 minute interval with the 6th train set on standby.

From http://www.upexpress.com/en/project/followthetrains.aspx

The first vehicles departed the port of Toyohashi, Japan in March, and before summer is over all 18 units – the full seven train fleet (four three-car consists and three two-car consists) – will have made their way across the Pacific.

I thought that the service was going to use 4 trainsets (25min travel, 5min turnaround), though admittedly that sounds like a remarkably short turnaround time. If they're running 5 trainsets, (25min travel, 12min turnaround), maybe there is potential for significant cost savings by skipping Weston Station, to allow the service to operate with 4 trainsets (22min travel, 8 min turnaround).

 

[innsertnamehere]

The turnaround at Union is going to have to be short as they have only a single platform, unlike at Union.

 

[reaperexpress]

The turnaround at Union is going to have to be short as they have only a single platform, unlike at Pearson.

Well to be fair, the turnaround times I listed are averaged over the round trip, so a 12 min turnaround time could actually be 8 minutes at Union and 16 minutes at Pearson.

 

[interchange42]

Willowbrook maintenance facility for the UP Express from May 31:

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[vegeta_skyline]

From http://www.upexpress.com/en/project/followthetrains.aspx

The first vehicles departed the port of Toyohashi, Japan in March, and before summer is over all 18 units – the full seven train fleet (four three-car consists and three two-car consists) – will have made their way across the Pacific.

I thought that the service was going to use 4 trainsets (25min travel, 5min turnaround), though admittedly that sounds like a remarkably short turnaround time. If they're running 5 trainsets, (25min travel, 12min turnaround), maybe there is potential for significant cost savings by skipping Weston Station, to allow the service to operate with 4 trainsets (22min travel, 8 min turnaround).

The 7 train-set fleet is news to me, I suppose they want two spares for better flexibility probably one 3-pack & one 2-pack. In any case it would be very easy to change the length of the cars and number of trains.

The turnaround at Union is going to have to be short as they have only a single platform, unlike at Union.

Thought I mentioned this earlier but I guess not. What I was told is that UPX trains will have five minutes at Union, a 25 minute run time to the airport, 20 minutes at the airport and 25 minutes to get back to Union. Which gives us 1 hour & 15 minutes to compete a system cycle. With only one track at Union the trains will have minimal dwell time there and there will always be a train present at the Airport. One train will pull in and while the other will leave 5 minutes later.

 

[interchange42]

Shot yesterday from the roof of 2 Gladstone:

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[W. K. Lis]

Wood ties?

 

[innsertnamehere]

GO always uses wood ties.

 

[ShonTron]

GO always uses wood ties.

There are concrete ties on the "GO Sub" between Pickering and Oshawa.