Who said anything about cities? While the oil-fuelled excess-crazy aberration of Dubai is not much of an exemplar of anything, you were responding to a post about urban vs suburban… Sure Mississauga is a city, but we're talking about its form, and that's mostly suburban. Yes it's going for a dense, urban, high-rise downtown typified in the development that's the subject of this thread, but right across the park from this development is a clump of Mississauga's vast low-rise, suburban landscape of meandering streets and cul-de-sacs. That's what's being talked about here.Cities are changing. By your definition, the city of Dubai would be suburban - It's a cluster of individual non-connected high rises - cities grow differently today. Today, there are as many cars travelling from Toronto to Mississauga as there are other way. Square One shopping centre functions as Mississauga's downtown, much like the downtown mall in Dubai. You can't compare say New York and Dubai with the same criteria but both are considered urban centres.