Tuck
Active Member
As always, a press release really would have been sufficient.
Del Duca just sinks to new lows every week. On the pathetic scale for photo-ops, with 10 being extremely pathetic, this just ranks slightly below the Tim Horton's announcement.
^Apparently every year is an election year in Del Duca's head.
The answers to your questions are, yes. Lower the cost of traveling by transit and more people take transit.If the TTC ran a bus route on Yonge north of Finch (Steeles) and ran to somewhere like Richmond Hill Centre, AND did not require an extra fare when crossing the boundary (Steeles), would the ridership of the route explode on day one? This would probably result in parking space at RHC/Langstaff GO to be full and ridership on Viva routes to virtually disappear.
Assuming this was possible, would it benefit the TTC in any way, other than getting a look at how the Yonge Subway Extension will have an impact on travel patterns?
So it is a good idea if and only if York Region residents paid more than just the fare for the TTC and Line 1 didn't have the capacity issues it does now?The answers to your questions are, yes. Lower the cost of traveling by transit and more people take transit.
Maybe just removing the transfer at Finch is better though. Taking over Yonge route would kill Viva's sole viable bus route.
Benefits? It will be more convenient to more people, we should have an active goal and desire of moving more people more efficiently.
Reasons why it should not happen? York residents are not subsidizing the TTC through their taxes, only through their fare. It is a poor argument that I wouldn't otherwise make if not for the existing capacity constraints on the Yonge Line and the fact that Toronto residents can't get on the subway at rush hour downstream.
Maybe just removing the transfer at Finch is better though. Taking over Yonge route would kill Viva's sole viable bus route.
To put things in perspective...They really have one viable bus line?
Well, TJ will disagree with me on the point.So it is a good idea if and only if York Region residents paid more than just the fare for the TTC and Line 1 didn't have the capacity issues it does now?
Well, TJ will disagree with me on the point.
But yes, I am firmly of the belief that Yonge North should only ever happen in conjunction with the Relief Line (and ideally, Relief Line north at that!), given present capacity constraints and ridership growth patterns..
Yup, that is the other thing about this. It is not necesarrily even a York Region thing.Right on the news page now is the redevelopment of Newtonbrook Plaza. That's in Toronto not waaaay off in York Region, but condos will keep marching up Yonge and there won't be infrastructure to serve the residents.
A BRT would be overwhelmed on day one and an LRT at or near capacity.
A situation that many of us are most regrettable about.But I've also said Toronto has wasted time and money it doesn't have to spare, whether on Scarborough or the gardiner or rail deck park and so on. Growth isn't going to wait for them.
Yup, that is the other thing about this. It is not necesarrily even a York Region thing.
Massive growth and development will be spurred at Newtonbrooke and Steeles on the Toronto side with a Yonge North extension.
Centerpoint Mall's days would be numbered the day Yonge North is anounced. Literally every block on both sides of Yonge between Drewry/Cummer and Steeles are perfect sites for condo developments.
As irresponsible as making the SSE the city's transit priority over the RL is, the only thing more irresponsible would have to be moving forward with Yonge North without adequate Yonge relief in place.
But, I can't really fault York Region for Toronto's ineptitude. York Region is merely trying to fulfil the Provincial growth mandate of smart growth.
Exactly, and the demand for them is going to be there.so a developer can propose big towers and in the unlikely even they're shot down, run to the OMB screaming "Places to grow!" and "subway!"