T.O.Fanatic
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I guess some neighbourhoods are too sparsely populated, or don't have character? Although, it's not like Downsview has character, and it gets a name.........
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I guess some neighbourhoods are too sparsely populated, or don't have character? Although, it's not like Downsview has character, and it gets a name.........
Disparishun
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To me it was weird that they did it by 416, then 905. I would have done it by part of the city, instead. Like, to me it is relevant to look at Thornhill and "Newtonbrook" and Willowdale and see how their east-west boundaries fit together, etc., as they are tightly integrated. Neither Port Union nor whatever is on the other side of it in Pickering are particularly integrated with any of those.
andomano
Active Member
Indeed!
Nice to see Seven Oaks get some recognition as a true neighbourhood as it's pretty well unknown!
whatever
Senior Member
Apparently I live in Tritown. This is news to me. I've never even heard that moniker. Google doesn't have a single mention of this neighbourhood either.
Cabbagetown also seems wrong (Dundas and Sherbourne doesn't strike me as Cabbagetown). The Yorkville boundary is also too stringent (I'd go south to Charles, and I'd also include those little streets to the east of the reference library). No Ryerson neighbourhood? No downtown Chinatown?
Cabbagetown also seems wrong (Dundas and Sherbourne doesn't strike me as Cabbagetown). The Yorkville boundary is also too stringent (I'd go south to Charles, and I'd also include those little streets to the east of the reference library). No Ryerson neighbourhood? No downtown Chinatown?
wyliepoon
Senior Member
Sorry to bring up the debate on the definition of downtown, but I met up with Americans yesterday who were engaged in a heated discussion about how come Torontonians have such a vague and vast definition for our "downtown". Seems like to them, you don't get to "downtown" until you get to the central area that has the city's tallest towers (so to them, the western boundary of "downtown" would be University Avenue). They laughed off the notion that places like Chinatown and Kensington Market are part of "downtown" (which many Torontonians, especially suburbanites like me, would say is "downtown").
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I think one way that we can use to define certain neighbourhoods is to attach a neighbourhood name to every subway station in Toronto, and then consider the area within walking distance to that subway station as the neighbourhood.
In Hong Kong, almost all MTR subway stations are named after the neighbourhoods or districts that the station is in, while a few are named after streets. Interestingly, for stations named after streets, people started to use the street name as the name for the area around the station, to the point that now the street/station name is officially recognized as the name for the area.
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I think one way that we can use to define certain neighbourhoods is to attach a neighbourhood name to every subway station in Toronto, and then consider the area within walking distance to that subway station as the neighbourhood.
In Hong Kong, almost all MTR subway stations are named after the neighbourhoods or districts that the station is in, while a few are named after streets. Interestingly, for stations named after streets, people started to use the street name as the name for the area around the station, to the point that now the street/station name is officially recognized as the name for the area.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Tritown tripped me out as well.
If they'll be doing a 905 extension of this idea I should submit to them my Pickering-Ajax neighbourhood map; save them some trouble (and possible muck up).
If they'll be doing a 905 extension of this idea I should submit to them my Pickering-Ajax neighbourhood map; save them some trouble (and possible muck up).
waterloowarrior
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CDL.TO
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Try outer 905ers and others further afield (519, 705, etc) who refer to the entire 416 as "downtown Toronto".
Anyway, I have no problems picturing the downtown as being more than the CBD (which is essentially what your American colleagues seem to consider to by synonymous with downtown).
ShonTron
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Tritown? So which one is it - Cobalt, Haileybury or New Liskeard?
(That's the only Tritown I've heard of in Ontario - that's the northerner in me talking though).
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
Really?
What about Kitchener-Waterloo-Cambridge?
All my friends from there call it that.
PS: They forgot about Hillside! The rural north-east of Toronto. Oh, it's real.
Earlscourt_Lad
Active Member
At least they got my neighbourhood mostly right, no points for guessing which one. It stops a few blocks south of where it should, but overall it's not bad.
Archivist
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Anyway, I have no problems picturing the downtown as being more than the CBD (which is essentially what your American colleagues seem to consider to by synonymous with downtown).
Downtown is particularly hard to define if you have a Financial District that consumes the core of it. "Central Toronto" is one of the more difficult areas to work with.
Re: Annex. No, the annex doesn't go south of Bloor, on that one small point I would tend to disagree. The annex is a slightly enlarged area that was actually annexed by the city some time ago. Areas south of Bloor are hard to define - I have it as Sussex-Ulster (which I don't much like, no one calls it that), but Harbord Village might be better.
I've stopped looking at updates, but I saw somewhere there was an "Old Towne". Spare me.
Is it my imagination, or are highrise residential districts given the short shrift?
Downtown is particularly hard to define if you have a Financial District that consumes the core of it. "Central Toronto" is one of the more difficult areas to work with.
Re: Annex. No, the annex doesn't go south of Bloor, on that one small point I would tend to disagree. The annex is a slightly enlarged area that was actually annexed by the city some time ago. Areas south of Bloor are hard to define - I have it as Sussex-Ulster (which I don't much like, no one calls it that), but Harbord Village might be better.
I've stopped looking at updates, but I saw somewhere there was an "Old Towne". Spare me.
Is it my imagination, or are highrise residential districts given the short shrift?
threnody
Active Member
Well, St. Jamestown is there.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
As is CityPlace.
toraerach
Active Member
As are Flemingdon Park, Thorncliffe Park, and Crescent Town