thettctransitfanatic
Senior Member
4407 was out testing yesterday, 4403 still on the service track after over 90 DAYS (what's taking so long???), and 4408 is also in the service bay currently
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drum118
Superstar
4407 was out all night as well. It went out about 1 am and heading home on Queen at 6:30 am.
Its the 3rd time it been out in the last few days.
4408 in its early days of inspection and maybe out testing by the weekend.
As for 4403, its on the yard service track for over a week and not in the service bay. It could be waiting parts or BBD how to fix something or TTC needs the space to keep the current fleet going. Its a problem car for sure and the longest to return to service.
drum118
Superstar
4407 was out testing and back in the service bay.
4403 has made its way back into the service bay
4403 has made its way back into the service bay
Allandale25
Senior Member
drum118
Superstar
After 100 days, 4403 has reenter service on 504 (BRBS)
drum118
Superstar
Unless I miss it, 4408 is doing its first test run on 509 now after arriving May 27.
4407 has been sitting on the service track for a number of days
4407 has been sitting on the service track for a number of days
drum118
Superstar
4407 has re-enter service on 512 after been here since May 06, 2020 or 49 days. Fastest of any QC cars to enter service under 70 days. It and the 512 cars are operating out of Hillcrest until the Bathurst loop is done. It also has VISION installed in it.
4408 was back out testing yesterday as well and been here May 27 or 27 days. It should enter service faster than 4407
4408 was back out testing yesterday as well and been here May 27 or 27 days. It should enter service faster than 4407
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
A bit late but IIRC pantographs are (or are able to be) bi directional. Removing the beed for loop facilities at terminus stations, just drive straight in and straight out
drum118
Superstar
4410 is now on its way to Quebec. Other than 4402, 4400-4417 are or had welds fix. We may see 4410 April/May 2021 based on current turn around. Still got 4418-4466 to have welds fix and at a rate of 10 cars a year, 2026 should see all 204 cars in service then.
Logic thinking, but logic doesn't work well with TTC or the councilors who run it. Have call for that since day one and still do. Removing loops would free land and reduce the squealing of wheels on tight radius.
jordanmkasla2009
Active Member
Pantographs are bi-directional... but the vehicles have to be bi-directional as well which means cabs at both ends. The Toronto Flexity Outlook does not have a cab at both ends so loops are required.
mdu
Active Member
nor does it have doors on both sides, etc.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Isn‘t this the only way to avoid a loop when the cars have one driver position and door side?
KevinT
Active Member
Pantos are, yes, but the doors, cab, and seating arrangements are not. The TTC needs loops unless you get a new crop of vehicles.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
I can see it now, the Operator forgets to deactivate the traffic side doors and people step right into a truck.
smallspy
Senior Member
A turntable is but one option, sure. But they also require a lot of land in one single location (you need to consider the length of the cars that will be using it), and a lot of maintenance to keep the thing turning.
A wye is another, and was much more common back in the "good old days". They have their own set of problems.
A loop is the most-efficient way from a headway standpoint, as it allows for the minimum amount of time between cars. No turning or reversing movements are required.
Generally double-ended equipment will have door controls for both sides at each operating station. It allows for more flexibility, and the ability to have "off-side" platforms.
Dan