DavidH
Senior Member
Colour the red rockets something other than red? Shocking!I share the concern about the grey colour. I'm hoping that it will be nice and bright with very little red. I really dislike all the red on the current streetcars.
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Colour the red rockets something other than red? Shocking!I share the concern about the grey colour. I'm hoping that it will be nice and bright with very little red. I really dislike all the red on the current streetcars.
I share the concern about the grey colour. I'm hoping that it will be nice and bright with very little red. I really dislike all the red on the current streetcars.
Bombardier must be kicking themselves they didn't bid $1.4 billion![]()
Well, those are options not guarantees. If they price themselves badly, TTC will go to open tender on it.Maybe not, they will probably just make up for it in the next couple TTC purchase orders for the new proposed Toronto LRT lines.![]()
The inside rendering looks completely different on Bombardier's new website http://www.thestreetcarredefined.ca/ Everything is different, seat layout, materials, compartment shape, straps instead of lots of convenient rails to hold onto.
The outside rendering is very different too, with different door positions, different windows, and a pantograph.
As the pricing from Bombardier is only good until the end of June, and McGuinty and Miller have both hinted that there should be a funding announcement soon, I predict that we will see a funding announcement sometime this Spring. Prototypes in 2011, and first units arriving 2012Now that we know who's got the bid, when are we gonna see some funding? Better yet, when are we gonna see some streetcars?
Single-cars??? these are 30-m long units, compared to the current 23-m long ALRVs and 15-m long CLRVs. By 2020 or so (ignoringTransit City doesn't occur) all the TTC LRTs will be these 30-m long units.Also, are we going to be using these streetcars with single-cars? I think that the TTC should think about switching the way the service works a bit, and use double cars on lines like King and Dundas, maybe even 3 cars on Queen.
http://www3.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Co.../Apr_27_2009/Reports/Commission_Report_Lo.pdf
Bombardier seriously undercut Siemens' price... $993M v. $1.5B
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I imagine the TC cars will be like 2 or 3 of the streetcars put together, especially if they can only run once every 5 minutes!Single-cars??? these are 30-m long units, compared to the current 23-m long ALRVs and 15-m long CLRVs. By 2020 or so (ignoringTransit City doesn't occur) all the TTC LRTs will be these 30-m long units.
That's a very interesting background in the picture of the outside. Two copies of the Simpson Building?
Depends on the route ... perhaps on Eglinton if it stays LRT, or the SRT if it get's converted. The vehicles are pretty modular, Bombardier has been churning them out many different lengths, from about 27 to 45 m. So probably not 2 or 3 units strung together, but a single unit, possibly of a longer length - though I wouldn't be surprised if it stays the same.Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I imagine the TC cars will be like 2 or 3 of the streetcars put together, especially if they can only run once every 5 minutes!
Steve Munro says (today) that 204 will replace the CLRVs and ALRVs:The 204 will replace the 196 CLRVs. The ALRVs,as you state, have an extra few years on them. Not to mention there's always the option to order more once they start coming.