TheTigerMaster
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My gosh that is ugly. Nova hasn't produced a single attractive bus for the TTC. The Livery on our Orion VII's are far more attractive.
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the lemur
Senior Member
I don't think the design of the bus is the problem - the same model, more or less, looks better in Montreal and Ottawa versions. It's the TTC's general lack of interest in design beyond wanting a white bus with a red stripe down it. A big vehicle like an artic is an opportunity to create something visually striking, for the purposes of user recognition and traffic safety.
Admiral Beez
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drum118
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Surprising, they don't carry much more than the current OC Double deck buses, let alone GO Transit.
Electrify
Senior Member
Beg to differ, I think it looks far better than the Orion VII, especially the older ones. Wish someone could take a pic from inside though, interested to see the interior design and seating arrangements.
Electrify
Senior Member
That said, the original Nova LFS design was a little sharper
TheTigerMaster
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Well I guess it's a matter of personal opinion. I find the design of the CLRV, ALRV, flexity freedom and the Orions to be quite sharp and attractive. The Nova looks a little silly to me, especially the nose. Placement of the TTC logos also look odd to me.
But this is all just frivolous complaining. All that matters is that it gets people to where they're going.
ShonTron
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Ottawa doesn't have any LFS artics; they're all standard New Flyer models. Montreal and New York City both operate the LFS artics (and closer to home, the newer Viva artics are by the same manufacturer). New York MTA has a very simple bus livery as well (a blue stripe instead of a red stripe). Montreal does have a more striking colour scheme these days, but at the cost of the timeless circled-T-arrow logo.
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Electrify
Senior Member
This one seems to have a little less black around the back on it compared to the Orions and LFS demo, and looks more similar to the TTC's New Flyer livery. Here are the pics to compare with:
Nova LFS demo
New Flyer D40LF
Orion VII
Orion VII NG
Nova LFS articulated
And for reference, Viva Nova LFX
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UD2
Active Member
different window system, different doors, different roof arrangements on top of the headlight designs. Looks like Viva optted for a more expensive (or at least appears to have) package.
the lemur
Senior Member
You're right, I was confusing the Ottawa NF D60LFR with Nova artics elsewhere. But the giant partial maple leaf over each back wheel is striking enough.
RapidTransit
Active Member
They should've just used the same paint job on the 1999 LFS onto the 2013 LFS. Same with the 1999 D40LF, they should've used the 1991 D40LF demo paint job.
I was hoping TTC would change the design once Byford came in; a new image, like what David Gunn did in the 1990s.
I was hoping TTC would change the design once Byford came in; a new image, like what David Gunn did in the 1990s.
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andomano
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innsertnamehere
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they must be driving them down from the factory. I wonder How odd it would be to see it driving down the 401 3 hours outside of Toronto haha.
nfitz
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Probably no more odd than any other transit bus you see on 401 between Toronto and Montreal, that's being driven from the factory. I've seen these a few times ... though not in the last 2-3 years now I think about it. If I remember correctly they tended to be in packs of 2 or 3.