smably
Senior Member
Those are the ones. They do seem like a downgrade in many ways from the old kind. Aside from aesthetics, I'm not sure why the existing ones needed replacing.
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W. K. Lis
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Put parking lot money toward transit, Toronto’s business lobby says
See link.
In 1909, a committee of the Toronto Board of Trade issued a report that suggested that public ownership of the transportation system might have advantages over the then privately-owned TRC (Toronto Railway Company). (Referencing "A Thirty Years' War, The failed public/private partnership that spurred the creation of the Toronto Transit Commission, 1891-1921", by C. Ian Kyer)
Interesting that over a hundred years, the Board of Trade sees that public transit is better for Toronto over the automobile.
See link.
In 1909, a committee of the Toronto Board of Trade issued a report that suggested that public ownership of the transportation system might have advantages over the then privately-owned TRC (Toronto Railway Company). (Referencing "A Thirty Years' War, The failed public/private partnership that spurred the creation of the Toronto Transit Commission, 1891-1921", by C. Ian Kyer)
Interesting that over a hundred years, the Board of Trade sees that public transit is better for Toronto over the automobile.
P23
Active Member
I don't think I've seen these new ones yet, are there photos by any chance?
AlvinofDiaspar
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
What's wrong with the new transit shelter?
As long as the shelter is inside a building.
As long as the shelter is inside a building.
denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
Why don't they extend the 501 back to port credit and tie it in with the Mississauga LRT? Nice ride and provides another connection to Toronto.
drum118
Superstar
Where would you put a loop as well deal with the traffic congestion in the area??
The locals and ward Councilor want it underground to the west side of Port Credit River, starting east of Hurontario.
Is it going to service the Imperial Oil lands as well going west???
With duel ends, no need for a loop.
What happens to the Hurontario Line that supposed to go to Long Branch??
smallspy
Senior Member
To go "back" to somewhere, it would have had to have gone there at some point in the past. And no Toronto streetcar has never come anywhere close to running to Hurontario.
As for connections to Toronto, Mississauga Transit already has and makes lots of them, and one of them happens to be the Lakeshore bus along Lakeshore Rd., which connects with the Queen streetcar at Long Branch Loop.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
DSC
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Fron G & M
The TTC is saying they can meet the mayor’s directive to find 2.6 per cent in cuts, mostly by spending less than expected on health care, but warn that a far bigger budget hole remains to be filled.
Toronto’s transit agency has been able to identify $15.8-million in trims to the main operating and Wheel-Trans budgets. These cuts include getting rid of land-lines for some employees who also have mobile phones and leveraging a ridership slump that left them spending less than expected in parts of this year.
Mayor John Tory’s demand for a 2.6 per cent budget cut at the TTC, as well as at other city agencies, sparked a wave of backlash. Transit advocates said the TTC has already been forced for years to struggle with lower funding than given to agencies in many other cities. And critics noted that the demand for cuts flew in the face of announcements Mr. Tory had made to improve service.
In a report released Friday afternoon, the TTC listed a series of cuts that would not appear to affect service. However, in the same report, the agency made clear that the harder budgeting work remains to be done.
“At the present time, the remaining pressure is about $172.6-million,” according to the report, signed by TTC chief financial and administrative officer Vincent Rodo. “Options for addressing this will be developed and provided as part of the formal budget presented to the TTC Board later this fall.”
The agency will need this additional money next year to maintain the same level of service. The total includes costs related to launching the Spadina subway extension to York Region, implementing the Presto fare-card system, vehicle maintenance and wages and benefits. The TTC is projecting that an extra $15-million will be needed for fuel costs, including $5-million related to Queen’s Park’s new cap-and-trade.
Some of these costs have been whittled down from an earlier estimate that pegged the budget pressure at $215-million. But the gap is still more than 10 times the amount in savings that they found, at the direction of the mayor. It is understood at city hall that the TTC’s subsidy will be going up this year, but whether it rises enough to cover the $172.6-million shortfall will be the subject of tense budget discussions at council.
TTC chief executive Andy Byford has previously signaled that he would not accept drastic measures to close this gap, including possibilities such as major fare hikes or delaying the opening of the subway extension.
The TTC is saying they can meet the mayor’s directive to find 2.6 per cent in cuts, mostly by spending less than expected on health care, but warn that a far bigger budget hole remains to be filled.
Toronto’s transit agency has been able to identify $15.8-million in trims to the main operating and Wheel-Trans budgets. These cuts include getting rid of land-lines for some employees who also have mobile phones and leveraging a ridership slump that left them spending less than expected in parts of this year.
Mayor John Tory’s demand for a 2.6 per cent budget cut at the TTC, as well as at other city agencies, sparked a wave of backlash. Transit advocates said the TTC has already been forced for years to struggle with lower funding than given to agencies in many other cities. And critics noted that the demand for cuts flew in the face of announcements Mr. Tory had made to improve service.
In a report released Friday afternoon, the TTC listed a series of cuts that would not appear to affect service. However, in the same report, the agency made clear that the harder budgeting work remains to be done.
“At the present time, the remaining pressure is about $172.6-million,” according to the report, signed by TTC chief financial and administrative officer Vincent Rodo. “Options for addressing this will be developed and provided as part of the formal budget presented to the TTC Board later this fall.”
The agency will need this additional money next year to maintain the same level of service. The total includes costs related to launching the Spadina subway extension to York Region, implementing the Presto fare-card system, vehicle maintenance and wages and benefits. The TTC is projecting that an extra $15-million will be needed for fuel costs, including $5-million related to Queen’s Park’s new cap-and-trade.
Some of these costs have been whittled down from an earlier estimate that pegged the budget pressure at $215-million. But the gap is still more than 10 times the amount in savings that they found, at the direction of the mayor. It is understood at city hall that the TTC’s subsidy will be going up this year, but whether it rises enough to cover the $172.6-million shortfall will be the subject of tense budget discussions at council.
TTC chief executive Andy Byford has previously signaled that he would not accept drastic measures to close this gap, including possibilities such as major fare hikes or delaying the opening of the subway extension.
denfromoakvillemilton
Senior Member
Fair enough. I guess I misread the map.
Although, the interurban used to go toronto to port credit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_and_Mimico_Electric_Railway_and_Light_Company
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muller877
Senior Member
Here's a link to the TTC meeting
http://www.ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Com...ngs/Budget/2016/September_21/Agenda/index.jsp
It's crazy that any company still uses land lines. Haven't they heard of Skype for Business and virtual phones? I'm even more scared that they think that a mobile phone is the better option though. Most companies have switched to BYOD (and have restricted usage to only those that really need one).
It confirms to me that they need a thorough scrubbing of costs at the TTC and the City in general.
A few hundred thousand here and there and it adds up to a substantial amount.
DSC
Superstar
Though I agree that land-lines are less useful we are talking about a VERY small amount of money in savings. The real budget problem at TTC is that they simply DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
From the Report: Removing telephone land lines for staff provided with TTC cell phones ($0.3M) `` See: http://ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commission_reports_and_information/Committee_meetings/Budget/2016/September_21/Reports/1._Preliminary_2017_TTC _and_Wheel-Trans_Operating_Budgets.pdf
Amare
Senior Member
It's part of the city's contract with Astral Media. To be realistic, many of them dont need to be replaced from an age related perspective. I'm sure there's a reason speculated in the contract, but as many of us know Astral is now owned by Bell so it doesnt surprise me that this is the kind of garbage they like putting out (ie: shelters that offer little to no protection).
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
I think shelters are becoming less about shelters and more about advertising as people really don't use them as much as they used to.
dowlingm
Senior Member
A few hundred thousand here and there and then next year your tax fighter mayor wants you to make the same amount of cuts but you can't get rid of a thing you already got rid of so...
As for "virtual phones", my experience is that what is delivered is not exactly what is in the brochure.
As for "virtual phones", my experience is that what is delivered is not exactly what is in the brochure.