[W. K. Lis]

The problem here was that when it was unveiled several years ago TTC customers were putting in obscene or other unwelcome messages/words. I like the concept but am afraid this was probably inevitable and am not sure it is to do with "litigiousness". . Not quite sure why the TTC were surprised or why it took them several years to just adjust it so that only authorised people could put in words.

They could have used an elementary school "spell checker", rejecting "incorrectly" or "unacceptable" words.

 

[ARG1]

They could have used an elementary school "spell checker", rejecting "incorrectly" or "unacceptable" words.

The problem is that's an arms race you can't win. You cannot write a case for every single unacceptable word, something will always fall through the cracks, or people will find creative ways to circumvent it. Then you run into the clbuttic problem where the word checker starts banning words that aren't a problem, but have a substring that is an unacceptable word.

 

[yrt+viva=1system]

So just an update on the Lightspell, passed by the station on the way home and the message is now “Hello.” I asked the station employees about it and it’s controlled from the booth along with the messaging.

 

[smallspy]

Yellow Creek is under there; but piped/encased.

Is it leaking?

I don't know about leaking, but there have been ongoing subsidence and water table issues there since the construction of the line.

For whatever reason it came to a head about 8 years ago, when the TTC seemed to throw up their hands and declare "We can't do anymore!!!". And then, quietly, they went back to the usual ongoing maintenance program and haven't made a big deal about it since.

Dan

 

[smallspy]

I don’t think he’s missing the point at all. That 10 day closure should avoid a lot of weekend closures, and accelerate the project’s completion time. If the subsequent weekend closures can’t be avoided, then so be it, but if installation can be accelerated, we should accelerate it.

Except that most of those current weekend closures aren't specifically due to the ATC system getting installed. Sure, they will get more work done during those closures, but they do not specifically schedule a weekend closure just to do wiring. It's simply not necessary.

Just about all of the installation for the new system happens overnight. Any weekend closures for the ATC system are when they get to the point in testing that they need to operate the trains over the section. Those closures would continue to happen regardless of whether there was a theoretical 10-day closure to complete the wiring or not.

Dan

 

[sacred]

Except that most of those current weekend closures aren't specifically due to the ATC system getting installed. Sure, they will get more work done during those closures, but they do not specifically schedule a weekend closure just to do wiring. It's simply not necessary.

Just about all of the installation for the new system happens overnight. Any weekend closures for the ATC system are when they get to the point in testing that they need to operate the trains over the section. Those closures would continue to happen regardless of whether there was a theoretical 10-day closure to complete the wiring or not.

Dan

Again, I think we’re on the same page. We’re simply being welcoming of extended closures if the TTC deems it an option for whatever work they might have to do. The faster work is done the better.

 

[M II A II R II K]

This Krakow example sure looks to keep cars out.


_20170117_123644 by Chris Belsten, on Flickr

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

I think people are missing that the section they are closing already operates with ATC. ATC currently is in use from Rosedale station to Vaugn. The section they are closing down for 10 days is for asbestos removal from the tunnels and the stations, it's easier to close it for 10 days and have a separate company come in and do it rather than the TTC doing it a little bit at a time.

 

[sacred]

I think people are missing that the section they are closing already operates with ATC. ATC currently is in use from Rosedale station to Vaugn. The section they are closing down for 10 days is for asbestos removal from the tunnels and the stations, it's easier to close it for 10 days and have a separate company come in and do it rather than the TTC doing it a little bit at a time.

Again, I think we’re on the same page. We’re simply being welcoming of extended closures if the TTC deems it an option for whatever work they might have to do. The faster work is done the better.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Meanwhile...

Could have been used when the subway is down with the shuttle buses.

 

[afransen]

The problem here was that when it was unveiled several years ago TTC customers were putting in obscene or other unwelcome messages/words. I like the concept but am afraid this was probably inevitable and am not sure it is to do with "litigiousness". . Not quite sure why the TTC were surprised or why it took them several years to just adjust it so that only authorised people could put in words.

They must have been dinosaurs who have never been on the internet. Must not have heard of Microsoft "AI"/twitter chatbot Tay, which got conditioned to parrot nazi propaganda over a day of being open to influence on the internet. This is why we can't have nice things. Anything that can be shitposted will be shitposted.

Reminds me of this amusing account of a conference where any Twitter message with a given hashtag was displayed on a screen unfiltered. Hilarity ensued.

 

[drum118]

Mar 14
Finally stop off at Islington to take a look at the bus terminal and saw a few things in the station

At Yonge Station

 

[Northern Light]

Mar 14
Finally stop off at Islington to take a look at the bus terminal and saw a few things in the station

Why would they do that? I get that they don't like the slatted ceilings. They are a bit dated, hard to keep clean, hard to colour-match, a pain to take down/put up.

Got it.

The new ceiling might be passable.........but for the discolouration of some panels, already...........

And, the terrible choice of lighting, which then leads to having abnormally shaped panels in the light rows.

IF, one were to select such panels, the correct thing would have been to use led can lights cut into the uniformed shaped panels as required.

That would look infinitely better and not cost materially more.

 

[44 North]

Mar 14
Finally stop off at Islington to take a look at the bus terminal and saw a few things in the station

lol @ the pigeons in Islington station. I've watched them hop down the stairs from the bus terminal as if they've done it 10000 times going home after a long day.

 

[nfitz]

lol @ the pigeons in Islington station. I've watched them hop down the stairs from the bus terminal as if they've done it 10000 times going home after a long day.

Perhaps they do ... they were endemic at Pape, especially before the renovation. One day, I saw one jump on a quiet train and get off at Donlands - I didn't feel it was their first trip.