AlvinofDiaspar
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Sorry, politicians have been involved with transit planning since day one anywhere you go - involvement with politics is unavoidable. The question is the degree of involvement and the politics involved.
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Sorry, politicians have been involved with transit planning since day one anywhere you go - involvement with politics is unavoidable. The question is the degree of involvement and the politics involved.
AoD
back closer to the topic; speaking of stop spacing, can we just talk about St.Clair from SCW stn to Vaughan Rd for a minute? why does it stop at bathurst AND vaughan? it is literally one tiny block. it pisses me off every time.
And did I mention the people wait inside SCW for the streetcar just to get off at Bathurst? why?!
The Vaughan stop has to go or perhaps the Bathurst stop, afterall the SCW station is within walking distance from Bathurst - a few min. It seems strange it just comes out of that tunnel and it has to stop already. The problem on St. Clair is there are too many stops and stop lights since there are so many intersections to St. Clair
Removing stops anywhere is likely a non-starter due to the nature of our public consultation methods. A small group of 20 locals will show up and speak on behalf of the 2,000 that didn't bother to show up. A councillor or planner will introduce the issue with language as loaded as possible to trigger an outcome of some of the 20 people screaming about how their service is being destroyed and how it was unacceptable. Of course, the city could just remove a surface stop without telling anyone and we'd accept it.
Removing stops anywhere is likely a non-starter due to the nature of our public consultation methods. A small group of 20 locals will show up and speak on behalf of the 2,000 that didn't bother to show up. A councillor or planner will introduce the issue with language as loaded as possible to trigger an outcome of some of the 20 people screaming about how their service is being destroyed and how it was unacceptable. Of course, the city could just remove a surface stop without telling anyone and we'd accept it.
Some guy on Twitter is having a rather nasty turn berating me for suggesting that the Queen/Victoria stops could be removed given the proximity of Yonge Steet, especially the westbound stop that would practically serve Victoria and St. Mike's by way of the rear door. He started off with a harsh accusation and is continuing it because his wife has MS and I, personally, want to make her walk a bit further. (Never mind that the walk from the 506 to Toronto General would still be longer, or that Mount Sinai and PMH are longer walks still, even the walk to the entrance to Toronto Western from Bathurst/Dundas isn't much shorter.)
When someone with a chip on their shoulder like that is going after someone publicly on Twitter who has no power to do anything about stop spacing, how do you have proper debates on these types of things?
Seriously though, if someone cannot manage the extra 200m from Church St, let alone the 100m from Yonge St without serious discomfort, then you are more than deserving of Wheel-Trans service. Yes, it costs more to provide, but as a society which looks out for those less fortunate it is a cost worthy of pursuing. Worth noting that this is also assuming that an electric wheelchair is unavailable for whatever reasons, as subsidizing such equipment may end up being more cost efficient than providing regular WT service.