rbt
Senior Member
I read this as "a giant cannon to fire giant passengers" and was impressed you accommodated population growth.
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I read this as "a giant cannon to fire giant passengers" and was impressed you accommodated population growth.
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
They bothered to build a Confederation Bridge between 2 sparsely trafficked and populated areas so maybe a similar bridge can be built across the lake to accommodate trains and of course cars and trucks.
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
Humber bay bridge, that is all. No need to tunnel
Swarley
Active Member
Yes but that bridge replaced a ferry which took who knows how long.. and Confederation bridge is 13 km long. Whereas this outlandish bridge saves maybe an hour off the QEW and would be 50+ km....
Earlscourt_Lad
Active Member
Monorail!
Mapleson
Active Member
The problem with the failed hovercraft crossings was the limited usability, exposure to bad weather, and limited speeds.
With a 50km MagLev line (300 kph) along the floor of Lake Ontario (rather than drilled under it like the Channel Tunnel), you are looking at a 10 minute trip. Have a few passenger cars, then allow vehicles to make up the remainder of the train, you could make a case for being cost effective instead of just a tourist attraction. Get the OLG on board offering "free" tickets to anyone that spends $50 or more in Niagara Falls as a start for funding.
The Channel Tunnel allows private cars for £39 per vehicle and takes 35 minutes.
With a 50km MagLev line (300 kph) along the floor of Lake Ontario (rather than drilled under it like the Channel Tunnel), you are looking at a 10 minute trip. Have a few passenger cars, then allow vehicles to make up the remainder of the train, you could make a case for being cost effective instead of just a tourist attraction. Get the OLG on board offering "free" tickets to anyone that spends $50 or more in Niagara Falls as a start for funding.
The Channel Tunnel allows private cars for £39 per vehicle and takes 35 minutes.
Tulse
Senior Member
I'm just guessing here, but I'd think the demand for travel between Britain and France is larger than the demand between Toronto and Buffalo.
As for a lake-floor tunnel, there are huge issues, starting with leakage (not as much of a problem for a dug tunnel), and issues with ship anchors fouling against it (again, see "leakage").
And all of this ignores that maglev is a far-from-proven technology (as far as I know, there is only one major high-speed system in operation, in Shanghai).
Honestly, this seems like a solution in search of a problem.
As for a lake-floor tunnel, there are huge issues, starting with leakage (not as much of a problem for a dug tunnel), and issues with ship anchors fouling against it (again, see "leakage").
And all of this ignores that maglev is a far-from-proven technology (as far as I know, there is only one major high-speed system in operation, in Shanghai).
Honestly, this seems like a solution in search of a problem.
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
In biblical times a group passed the river Jordan by having the water part ways for the group to walk across it.
themarc
Senior Member
Just a stretch here
but how fast do you think the real-estate would be snapped up if 9,000 sq km of (well below market value) space were to come on the market 10 minutes along a GO line going east or west from downtown Toronto? 10 minutes is barely Mimico or Danforth stations...
We are talking through the roof development here...
I bet few here have any idea how iconic Niagara Falls is in the Orient or South Asia.
Owning a place in the falls with a view?
Priceless...
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themarc
Senior Member
And the OLG already subsidizes the bus tickets. Last time I went it was a $12.75 return ticket - *** AND *** - they put 10 bucks on your Casino card so really the trip including return is only $2.75 (tax included).
It costs more to take the subway/streetcar to the Bay Street coach station (to catch the subsidized Casino shuttle) than it does to get to and from Niagara!!!
So yeah - this would work!
It costs more to take the subway/streetcar to the Bay Street coach station (to catch the subsidized Casino shuttle) than it does to get to and from Niagara!!!
So yeah - this would work!
toraerach
Active Member
That's some of the best farmland in the country.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Have you read any of the replies to this thread?
adma
Superstar
I'm almost willing to dissect your viewing this through an OLG prism. I mean, there is something kinda "Lotto Max winner's fantasy" about this daffy scheme of yours...
kkgg7
Banned
A 300km/h high speed rail is almost impossible to happen in Canada within the next 30 years. Maglev? Only China has the cash and the guts to do it now. Canada, not a chance.
It is almost embarrassing that it takes 5-6 hours to travel between the not so long distance between Canada's two biggest cities. I am surprised that many who drive regularly between them think that time is "fine". It takes less than half of the time to travel the same distance in France or Spain.
It is almost embarrassing that it takes 5-6 hours to travel between the not so long distance between Canada's two biggest cities. I am surprised that many who drive regularly between them think that time is "fine". It takes less than half of the time to travel the same distance in France or Spain.
Nick.
Banned
really? that's weird because they're building a line in Japan. also please lock this stupid thread.