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French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights

From link.
French lawmakers voted late on Saturday to abolish domestic flights on routes than can be covered by train in under two-and-a-half hours, as the government seeks to lower carbon emissions even as the air travel industry reels from the global pandemic.

The measure is part of a broader climate bill that aims to cut French carbon emissions by 40% in 2030 from 1990 levels, though activists accuse President Emmanuel Macron of watering down earlier promises in the draft legislation.

The vote came days after the state said it would contribute to a 4 billion euro ($4.76 billion) recapitalisation of Air France, more than doubling its stake in the flagcarrier, to shore up its finances after over a year of COVID-19 travel curbs.

Industry Minister Agnes Pannier-Runacher dismissed criticism from the aviation industry that a pandemic recovery was not the time to ban some domestic flights, and said there was no contradiction between the bailout and the climate bill.

“We know that aviation is a contributor of carbon dioxide and that because of climate change we must reduce emissions,” she told Europe 1 radio. “Equally, we must support our companies and not let them fall by the wayside.”

Air traffic may not return to pre-crisis levels before 2024, McKinsey analysts forecast.

Some environmental campaigners have said the bill does not go far enough. A citizens’ climate forum established by Macron to help shape climate policy had called for the scrapping of flights on routes where the train journey is less than 4 hours.

Saturday night’s vote in the National Assembly was the first. The bill goes to the Senate before a third and final vote in the lower house, where Macron’s ruling party and allies dominate.

Helps when France has real high-speed trains.

Meanwhile, in Ontario...

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Plus, the third wave is going collapse even faster than past ones, as vaccines keep marching. It is going to happen so fast that it will feel like whiplash. The result is companies that foresee this will look like they are moving too early now, and those that don't will look like laggards by June.

Not quite. Takes 2 weeks to take effect. That's why they tell you to stay home for two weeks after getting the shot.

But by May long weekend at least half the population will have been vaccinated and hopefully most of those taking the train will be outside the two week period.
 
Not quite. Takes 2 weeks to take effect. That's why they tell you to stay home for two weeks after getting the shot.
They'd up the lockdown rules (mostly Toronto and Peel) before the shutdown was announced. Also there's been no school in Peel (Mississauga/Brampton) for 12 days now. And one bizarre day of school in Toronto during that period - which was about half-empty from what I hear (we kept our kids home that day, as did many others).

If you look closely at the numbers, Toronto and Peel have been flat or down for the last two days, though rest of province is up.

Might be closer to 10 days not 2 weeks. Also note that York has now significantly overtaken Toronto in terms of cases, not having any restrictions until the shutdown started.

Hopefully the downward slope is steeper too than the last couple of times, with the vaccine spreading (though I guess this being the variant now, could outweigh that, and make it shallower than the previous times, or even just flat).

I suppose the best example is the UK - the first ones to deal with the UK variant. They simply ended up locking down completely in mid-February for 2 months. I'd guess then that this stay-at-home should last until sometime in early June, unless we vaccinate faster than UK.
 

French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights

From link.


Helps when France has real high-speed trains.

Meanwhile, in Ontario...

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It's like France is a different country with a different attitude to state planning, with a different attitude to "national champion" industries, and with a transnational rail framework which allows train operators to bid on a fair basis for access to the network, twice the population of Canada, and six percent of the Canadian land area.
 
Canadian is used by an older population and would be vaccinated. My guess.
And if VIA doesn't or can't (fearing a CTC complaint) mandate vaccine passports? Can it even guarantee vaccination for its own crews, given the amount of vaccine hesitancy we have seen in LTC staff?

4156 cases in Ontario alone today. I watched the Corridor VIAs pass at Monarch Park last night and it sure as hell didn't look a comforting sight. The average length of train journey for Canadian is much longer. I would not restart before June 30. Yes that will have impacts but the public health emergency absolutely overrides those impacts.
 
It's like France is a different country with a different attitude to state planning, with a different attitude to "national champion" industries, and with a transnational rail framework which allows train operators to bid on a fair basis for access to the network, twice the population of Canada, and six percent of the Canadian land area.
While I get your point, the population density of Canada as a whole tells you next to nothing about the role that trains can play in our society. Our population is very concentrated in a handful of regions. The Windsor-Quebec corridor has more than half the population of Canada and is almost as densely populated as France. We can learn a lot from what other countries are doing and the example of France is a lot more relevant than China, which gets brought up a lot here. The story about France banning short domestic flights is a glimpse of what could eventually be possible in this part of Canada if we start investing in intercity rail again.
 

French lawmakers approve a ban on short domestic flights

From link.


Helps when France has real high-speed trains.

Meanwhile, in Ontario...

nothing

It's like France is a different country with a different attitude to state planning, with a different attitude to "national champion" industries, and with a transnational rail framework which allows train operators to bid on a fair basis for access to the network, twice the population of Canada, and six percent of the Canadian land area.

We can't have this nationwide in Canada. But we could certainly achieve elements of this in the Quebec-Windsor and Calgary-Edmonton corridors. We just need better air-rail integration to accompany more inter-city rail. Montreal needs the Dorval REM extension. And Toronto needs the Pearson Transit Hub. Those two pieces of infrastructure with HFR would allow for reductions and downgauging on existing flights. Upgrade to HSR and more flights can be removed later.
 
Key context for folks from Ontario/outside of Quebec.
JDM is the Montreal tabloid equivalent of Toronto Sun.

Another article in the French Canadian press, published yesterday (I don't think it's been posted here). HSR Canada tweeted it out today. Not sure how this publication fares compared to JDM.

 
Another article in the French Canadian press, published yesterday (I don't think it's been posted here). HSR Canada tweeted it out today. Not sure how this publication fares compared to JDM.

It's just an opinion article with zero new content, by a local tourism professor at UQaM. He's basically repeating the same old "HSR or nothing" mantra that HSR Canada has been touting out for the last 20 years.

Also, fun fact, the author represents the Transat Chair in Tourism, which is wholly funded by Air Transat. Go figure🤔🤔
 
On a totally separate note - last night (Tuesday, April 13, around 7:30 PM) a VIA Canadian train consisting of four locomotives and around 25 - 30 passenger cars, including multiple observation cars, two of which were the end of train ones, as well as one of the newer, non-stainless steel cars, was headed west from Union Station towards the Mimico yards. No idea where they had been sequestered over the past year, but clearly heading for a check-over and freshen up in the Mimico shops before going back into service.

An boy, does it look strange to see an end-of-train observation car with additional passenger cars connected behind it...
 
On a totally separate note - last night (Tuesday, April 13, around 7:30 PM) a VIA Canadian train consisting of four locomotives and around 25 - 30 passenger cars, including multiple observation cars, two of which were the end of train ones, as well as one of the newer, non-stainless steel cars, was headed west from Union Station towards the Mimico yards. No idea where they had been sequestered over the past year, but clearly heading for a check-over and freshen up in the Mimico shops before going back into service.

An boy, does it look strange to see an end-of-train observation car with additional passenger cars connected behind it...

I think someone caught it leaving Vancouver on April 2nd: https://www.facebook.com/groups/VIA...08JzPpNCl3XC3N_tQ3r7_ev9fvLTdwY&__tn__=,O,P-R

(from the VIA Rail #1/2 "The Canadian" Facebook group)
 
I think the French style HSR will be great and I can't wait for Ottawa to study it over the next 5 years so they can create another new report.

The problem for VIA {besides too little funding and grotesque political interference} is that it has a HUGE financial burden it is going to have to overcome in the next 20 years............decarbonizing it's fleet.

There is no way, in hell, that Ottawa will be able to dictate zero emissions targets for transportation but give it's Crown Corporation a pass. The entire network from Coast to Coast is going to have to switch over to zero emissions vehicles and the cost won't come cheap from both new vehicles and the needed infrastructure. That's not just the busy Corridor but also ridiculously remote service like to Churchill & Prince Rupert. That means the huge expense of HSR in the Corridor will have to be backed up by a clean nationwide fleet and when the costs are tabulated most Canadians will bulk at the idea.
 
There is no way, in hell, that Ottawa will be able to dictate zero emissions targets for transportation but give it's Crown Corporation a pass. The entire network from Coast to Coast is going to have to switch over to zero emissions vehicles and the cost won't come cheap from both new vehicles and the needed infrastructure. That's not just the busy Corridor but also ridiculously remote service like to Churchill & Prince Rupert. That means the huge expense of HSR in the Corridor will have to be backed up by a clean nationwide fleet and when the costs are tabulated most Canadians will bulk at the idea.
I believe the commitment is to net-zero rather than absolute zero. Hypothetically VIA and other government agencies could offset emissions, for example, by planting trees.

This is not to say that VIA won't have to implement new motive power technology. But I would worry more about the impact on plenty of things before I would say VIA will be placed at risk by this commitment.

- Paul
 

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