robmausser
Senior Member
Yes, similar to that.
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Yes, similar to that.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
So VIA would dictate the schedule and the terms in which the service is to be run, which is contracted out to a private company which will operate the service?
robmausser
Senior Member
No, in this case it would be a different agency from VIA I believe. I don't think VIA will have anything to do with HFR any more. It would be a different arm of the government or a new agency. I could be wrong however.
11th
Senior Member
I understand they want to be inclusive, but now, that washroom symbol has become meaningless.
They are better off using a pictogram of the actual toilet - as they always should have.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Emily Farina's post indicates that the top speed was 152 km/h (95 mph), but Train 33 covers some 100 mph (160 km/h) territory. David Bellerive's post indicates that the train did reach 160 km/h.
I wonder which track speed category the train uses. CN lines often include many different speed limits for different types of passenger trains. The highest category is "LRC", which is currently only contains the P42 locomotives and Rennaissance coaches. Ironically the LRC coaches themselves are in a lower category since their tilting system was removed. I'm not sure why the Ren coaches have a higher speed rating, it's not like they tilt either. I hope the Siemens trains are categorized as 'LRC', which would permit about 5-10 mph more than the limits which currently apply to LRC coaches, and 10-15 mph faster than HEP coaches. VIA's comments about improved speeds suggest that this may indeed be the case.
I'm surprised they have open luggage racks. As I recall, the UP Express Nippon Sharyo DMUs needed to be modified from the American version to enclose luggage racks per Transport Canada requirements.
I wonder which track speed category the train uses. CN lines often include many different speed limits for different types of passenger trains. The highest category is "LRC", which is currently only contains the P42 locomotives and Rennaissance coaches. Ironically the LRC coaches themselves are in a lower category since their tilting system was removed. I'm not sure why the Ren coaches have a higher speed rating, it's not like they tilt either. I hope the Siemens trains are categorized as 'LRC', which would permit about 5-10 mph more than the limits which currently apply to LRC coaches, and 10-15 mph faster than HEP coaches. VIA's comments about improved speeds suggest that this may indeed be the case.
I'm surprised they have open luggage racks. As I recall, the UP Express Nippon Sharyo DMUs needed to be modified from the American version to enclose luggage racks per Transport Canada requirements.
It also serves all 3 of Via's stations with high-level platforms, which is great for photo ops. And it serves 3 major cities in both provinces. Overall a really smart choice for a first run.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
If you can pull the posted schedule you should be able to figure out the allowed speed.
I think the open luggage compartment is going to be a problem.
crs1026
Superstar
The official CN operating parameters will eventually leak out. In the meanwhile, Moving Maps is probably your best gauge.
Open luggage racks are far better for the customer, easier to use and less chance of anything falling out and getting left behind. I’m pleased to see TC relent on this.
- Paul
smallspy
Senior Member
That's the whole point.
If you look at the schedules of the Quebec-to-Ottawa trains today, they take an extra 10 minutes eastbound to get to Saint-Lambert, and an extra 10 minutes westbound to get to Dorval. That time is due to those trains needing to back out of the station to the wye, and then continue forward after that maneuver. The trains being used today only have one loco and no cab car. The new trains will eliminate this, and thus also allow the schedules to tighten up somewhat.
Dan
smallspy
Senior Member
The Siemens equipment is cleared for "LRC" speeds.
I'm puzzled by this as well. Not having seen the equipment up close yet, I wonder if they have some details in them to allow for their open-ness.
Dan
reaperexpress
Senior Member
At one point they had some bidirectional consists with LRC coaches with 50/50 seating and a locomotive on both ends. What happened to that?
Urban Sky
Senior Member
According to this cycling plan from June, push-pull consists still operate on cyles L8, L9 and Fridays-Mondays on L6:
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sacred
Active Member
Does VIA still only have one Siemens trainset? The one in operation?
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
The have 2 trainsets. Not sure if both are running in revenue service yet.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
and that's what you didn't make clear in your original post which is why I asked for clarification.
roger1818
Senior Member
I’m my original post I said:
The old trains didn’t have cab cars and none of the trains with 2 locomotives were used on the Quebec-Ottawa route, so wyeing was necessary mid route, after leaving Montreal. The new trains are bi-directional so wyeing is no longer necessary.