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nfitz said:
Presumably they are staging the work so that some services can be provided by one or the other facilities, while the other is offline.
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That would be my expectation.

nfitz said:
I know redundancy for transit might come as a surprise for people from Ottawa. 🤣
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Not everyone from Ottawa is a politician, unlike what the media may brain wash you into thinking. Funny how federal laws are blamed on the city of Ottawa, but provincial laws aren't blamed on the city of Toronto. Given hwo so many people on this forum use call actions by the federal government as coming from Ottawa, I suspect most people on this foruim have bought into this.
 
Some of the cycling changes ahead, as investigated by Tom Box:

As always, these are subject to further change by VIA, but my tentative findings are:

* Changes take effect February 3.

* More Montreal - Toronto Ventures. Until now that route has been almost all LRC. #60, 62, 69, 669 will be Venture every day, #61, 68 on certain days of the week. Toronto - Ottawa #50 and 52 also become Venture, so J trains #60/50 and 62/52 will be all-Venture.

* Ventures almost disappear from southwestern Ontario, except for one Toronto - Sarnia round trip a week on Sunday #87/Monday #84. (Sunday #76 also shows as Venture, but that day's #71 is HEP2. #71 must cycle to #76, so something's wrong here.)

* LRCs return to a few Montreal - Ottawa trains (Mon/Tue #31, Sat #633) on a route that has been all-Venture until now (though with LRCs sometimes subbing for bad-ordered Ventures). The LRCs only appear westward on Montreal - Ottawa. That's possible if they're doing a Montreal - Ottawa - Toronto - Montreal triangle, but I don't fully understand the equipment cycles. That's Doug Bardeau's department.

* More LRC and fewer HEP2 for Ottawa - Toronto. There will be just one HEP2 round trip a day on that route, on average. Most of the HEP2 runs will be in southwestern Ontario, where they appear on #71/76, 73/78, and 82/83.

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Urban Sky said:
Some of the cycling changes ahead, as investigated by Tom Box:

As always, these are subject to further change by VIA, but my tentative findings are:

* Changes take effect February 3.

* More Montreal - Toronto Ventures. Until now that route has been almost all LRC. #60, 62, 69, 669 will be Venture every day, #61, 68 on certain days of the week. Toronto - Ottawa #50 and 52 also become Venture, so J trains #60/50 and 62/52 will be all-Venture.

* Ventures almost disappear from southwestern Ontario, except for one Toronto - Sarnia round trip a week on Sunday #87/Monday #84. (Sunday #76 also shows as Venture, but that day's #71 is HEP2. #71 must cycle to #76, so something's wrong here.)

* LRCs return to a few Montreal - Ottawa trains (Mon/Tue #31, Sat #633) on a route that has been all-Venture until now (though with LRCs sometimes subbing for bad-ordered Ventures). The LRCs only appear westward on Montreal - Ottawa. That's possible if they're doing a Montreal - Ottawa - Toronto - Montreal triangle, but I don't fully understand the equipment cycles. That's Doug Bardeau's department.

* More LRC and fewer HEP2 for Ottawa - Toronto. There will be just one HEP2 round trip a day on that route, on average. Most of the HEP2 runs will be in southwestern Ontario, where they appear on #71/76, 73/78, and 82/83.

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Isn't that the worst place to put them?
 
Urban Sky said:
It’s certainly the worst route to put them, but they do the least damage on 60/62 and 69/669 don’t have to catch any connecting trains, so clearly some thought went into that by my former colleagues…
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So the delays will have the least impact?

It would make more sense to take mid coaches and put them on other trains to make them longer until the speed restriction is lifted.
 
Urban Sky said:
It’s certainly the worst route to put them, but they do the least damage on 60/62 and 69/669 don’t have to catch any connecting trains, so clearly some thought went into that by my former colleagues…
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On that note any updates on the court battle and what via will do in the long term? Extend the trains? More joint trains? Fight CN to the death?
 
cplchanb said:
On that note any updates on the court battle and what via will do in the long term? Extend the trains? More joint trains? Fight CN to the death?
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We are in a holding pattern right now. Next steps are CN motion to strike VIA's judicial review application on February 7. I think if that is not successful, and unless something else changes, all three parties involved (CN, VIA and the Attorney-General of Canada) have a February 25 court date.

I hate to presage what the outcome of this legal wrangling will be. CN and VIA legal teams both seem to think they have a very strong case, not surprisingly. I find it interesting that having seen many of the affidavits both sides are bringing forward, it is CN that has yet to prove a real, solid, applicable, Corridor-relevant case for the publishing of its Crossing Supplement on October 11 that started all this. There is absolutely nothing linked to a single-crossing 'smoking gun', reason for the October 11 date, and perhaps CN's report to Transport Canada, which is likely now in TC's hands, will provide something in this regard.

Real time updates here, and another blog post on materials submitted on CN's and VIA's behalf is currently in the works!
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What is the cost for a shunt enhancer for one locomotive? Would buying 32(?) of these be a more simple solution? How long would it take to install? I hate the idea of giving in to the CN bullies, but the speed restriction should be lifted asap. Maybe the court could decide that CN pays for them after the fact?
 
andrewmaps said:
What is the cost for a shunt enhancer for one locomotive? Would buying 32(?) of these be a more simple solution? How long would it take to install? I hate the idea of giving in to the CN bullies, but the speed restriction should be lifted asap. Maybe the court could decide that CN pays for them after the fact?
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This was discussed here a few months ago.

Urban Sky said:
My unqualified gut feeling would say that $10 million and one year would be a plausible time and cost frame…
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smallspy said:
It depends entirely on the complexity of the solution. If it is something like what Amtrak is testing, and what is used in parts of Europe? Yeah, I could see Urban Sky's estimate being accurate.
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Urban Sky said:
It’s certainly the worst route to put them, but they do the least damage on 60/62 and 69/669 don’t have to catch any connecting trains, so clearly some thought went into that by my former colleagues…
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It also makes sense to make J trains #60/50 and 62/52 be all-Venture, as they will meet CN's minimum axil count until they split at Brockville.
 
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