MisterF
Senior Member
Trying to explain to an AI that Via Rail exists in a modern developed county would be like Captain Kirk talking a robot into destroying itself.
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Bojaxs
Senior Member
Looking 20-25 years into the future, what will VIA rail ridership look like after ALTO is completed and running? Would VIA rail be able to survive off of ridership from cities like Kingston, Cornwall, etc.?
Urban Sky
Senior Member
The operation of all parallel VIA services is part of the „O“ („Operate“) ingredient of the „DBFOM“ (I‘m sure I forget some letters!) letter soup, if only to minimize revenue risks from competition with legacy services. The question of service levels along the Kingston and (if QM ever gets built) Drummondville Subdivisions will largely depend on whatever minimum service requirements are written into the Project Agreement…
ShonTron
Moderator
Kingston is a big market – the third busiest VIA station in Ontario – and there are multiple bus operators also on that route. If VIA can make Toronto-London-Windsor work, it can certainly serve the intermediate markets between Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
I totally agree that there is an abundance of untapped market potential along the Lakeside which can be unlocked once the service is no longer held hostage by the incompatible market requirements of the primary (TO, TM and OM) markets. However, their operator will no longer be VIA, as it will be the same as for ALTO‘s own services…
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Bordercollie
Senior Member
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Not totally via related but I think it's a good idea.
evandyk
Senior Member
If this happens, we're definitely taking the kid to Ottawa by train this summer.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
I haven’t had luck finding the answer anywhere else, so I apologize if this is off topic: anyone know which seats in the Venture business cars have obstructed or no view? Seems to be a bigger problem in Economy, but I know row 16 has no window.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
You can find a virtual tour here:
A cursory view at Car 5 suggests that rows 6, 8, 10, 12, 15 and 17 provide unobstructed view in this particular car…
APTA-2048
Senior Member
Thank you. That’s very helpful.You can find a virtual tour here:
A cursory view at Car 5 suggests that rows 6, 8, 10, 12, 15 and 17 provide unobstructed view in this particular car…
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
In a second loss for VIA, the Superior Court of Quebec has chosen not to intervene and grant an interlocutory injunction against CN's crossing speed reductions in the Corridor. (After having its case not heard in Federal Court in Montreal, VIA had applied to the Quebec Superior Court on an urgent basis to seek permanent and interlocutory relief, and for a safeguard order if interlocutory relief cannot be adjudicated in the very short term, to prevent continued severe and irreparable harm caused by CN's unreasonable, excessive and abusive conduct.) The Court's April 23 decision says that Transport Canada, as the authority responsible for rail safety in Canada, is best-positioned to decide this matter. VIA's CEO shared the outcome, and VIA does not view this as a loss. In fact the main legal case - a request for permanent injunction - is still ongoing.
In the course of the legal process in Quebec, VIA and Transport Canada (TC) were able to obtain key information from CN that had been previously unshared. These new insights will significantly support VIA's ongoing discussions with TC and CN. VIA claims that CN's latest data confirms that none of VIA's trains are detected at crossings any differently than other trains operating in the Corridor.
VIA's General Counsel is reviewing the Court's decision and evaluating next steps in the legal, operational and administrative avenues.
In the course of the legal process in Quebec, VIA and Transport Canada (TC) were able to obtain key information from CN that had been previously unshared. These new insights will significantly support VIA's ongoing discussions with TC and CN. VIA claims that CN's latest data confirms that none of VIA's trains are detected at crossings any differently than other trains operating in the Corridor.
VIA's General Counsel is reviewing the Court's decision and evaluating next steps in the legal, operational and administrative avenues.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
I was in Sarnia earlier this week. I thought I’d drive over to view the historic train station. While there I thought I’d check when the trains were scheduled. I was surprised to see that there was only one train to Toronto, and only one train back to Sarnia. I wonder if the travel time was reduced if more people would take it? My drive home from Sarnia to downtown Toronto was about 3 hours vs. about 5 hours by train.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
The mayor has been advocating for more trains however being short on equipment they can't add any new services. If they do they should run those trains along the Dundas sub instead of through kitchener.
micheal_can
Senior Member
Would you suggest an equal amount along each sub? I noticed all trains to Windsor use it and only the Sarnia trains use the Guelph sub.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Is that why the connection (in London) get to Toronto faster than the direct route?
It's a rare thing to see the direct route costing significantly less than the connection.