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Taken seriously, it's offensive.

What's offensive to you...me claiming that Walmart shoppers have a victim mentality?

Why you would find that offensive is strange, as you corroborated this claim earlier...

I said..."I think my point was that healthy lifestyle choices, including diet, are not dependent on your income."...and you said....."Your point is wrong".

Claiming that people under a certain income bracket aren't capable of healthy lifestyle choices...nor are they responsible for their situation is applying a "victim" label to them. And if you ask me...that's is what is offensive.

Those that support Walmart because they think they can't afford to shop anywhere else are just helping Walmart kill off their low cost competition and legitimize the myth that they are the store of last resort for these so-called "victims" of poverty. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Does anybody actually enjoy shopping at Walmart? What's worse, given how almost universally loathed Walmart is, and with its terrible reputation, people still shop there anyway. It appears people feel soooo victimized that they are willing to even forego their ethics because they have no choice but to shop at Walmart.

Does Walmart have a bad reputation just because they are a big corporation? Tim Hortons is a big corporation, and no amount of money could buy a better reputation than they have with the general population.
 
Yes I am. And I will continue to criticize Walmart until I'm blue in the face if it suits me, and I don't care how much you don't like it. If there is a point you want to debate, then fire away, but the personal insults won't do you any good.

That sounds like a really emotionally healthy way to spend one's time.
 
Does anybody actually enjoy shopping at Walmart? What's worse, given how almost universally loathed Walmart is, and with its terrible reputation, people still shop there anyway.
I'd be willing to bet the majority of people don't enjoy shopping for non luxury items in general, Walmart or not.

It appears people feel soooo victimized that they are willing to even forego their ethics because they have no choice but to shop at Walmart.
Assuming people's ethics are the same as yours. But most people couldn't care less about these alleged ethical conundrums, as evidenced by the success Walmart enjoys.
 
Even Cape Cod, Mass. does not like the big box stores. From this link:

Here’s one smart way to fight big-box stores

By Stacy Mitchell

This month, citizens and planning officials in Cape Cod, Mass., will get a chance to do what almost no one else in the U.S. is allowed to do when deciding whether to approve or reject a big-box retail development: weigh the likely impacts on the region’s economy.

Thousands of proposals to build big-box stores and shopping centers will be submitted to cities and towns this year. (Walmart alone is pushing to open 220 new stores by January.) In almost every case, local planning policies will limit any review of these projects to conventional zoning issues, like how much traffic the store will generate and whether the site has sufficient landscaping.

Questions about the economic impacts of these projects will be off the table. Residents who want to talk about how a new shopping center will affect the viability of Main Street business districts, wage rates for local workers, or even the cost of public services will be told that those issues cannot be considered as part of the planning board’s deliberations.

This narrow approach to land-use policy strips communities of an important tool for shaping their own economic future, constraining the reach of extractive corporations, and moving toward less carbon-intensive economic systems and shopping patterns.

One exception to this common state of affairs is Cape Cod, a peninsula home to about 217,000 people.

Mindful of the Cape’s fragile environment and economy (despite pockets of wealth, the peninsula’s per capita income is well below the state average), residents voted to create the Cape Cod Commission in 1990. Made up of representatives of each of the Cape’s 15 towns, this regional planning body has the authority to review, and reject, large development projects that could significantly impact the local economy or environment, including any commercial building over 10,000 square feet. The commission does not supplant municipal planning boards, but rather adds a second layer of review for large projects, in which all of the region’s towns are given a say.

Guided by a Regional Policy Plan that frowns on development outside of town centers and favors projects that protect the Cape’s character, expand local ownership, and enable the region’s communities to meet more of their own needs instead of relying on imports, the Cape Cod Commission has turned down several big-box stores over the last two decades, including a Walmart in Falmouth, a Sam’s Club in Hyannis, a Costco in Sandwich, and a Home Depot in Yarmouth.

A few big retailers have made it in, but only by proposing much smaller stores and locating them on sites that were already developed. Walmart finally won approval to open its one and only store on the peninsula when it applied to put a 73,000-square-foot store (one-third the size of a typical supercenter) into a building in Falmouth previously occupied by a defunct regional department store chain. Home Depot likewise was given the green light to take over an empty retail space in Hyannis, opening a store about half its standard size.

Now the Cape Cod Commission is reviewing a proposal to build a 128,000-square-foot Lowe’s in the town of South Dennis. In a filing with the commission, Lowe’s said the store would create 115 new jobs. But an analysis by FXM Associates found that Lowe’s would not be adding to the economy, but rather siphoning off 10 to 20 percent of the sales at dozens of local hardware, lumber, appliance, paint, plumbing, and other stores. Declining revenue would force these retailers to lay off 163 people.

These threatened jobs pay about 25 percent more on average than Lowe’s does, meaning the store’s arrival would trigger a net decline in household incomes of $3.2 million annually. The drain on the region’s economy is even greater, the analysis notes, if you consider the fact that, unlike competing locally owned retailers, Lowe’s will purchase very little in the way of goods and services from other Cape Cod businesses.

At two public hearings to be held by the commission this month (details here and here [PDFs]), citizens will get to weigh in on these issues, as well as the environmental impacts of a low-rise box store with five acres of parking.

Aside from Cape Cod, Vermont is the only other region with a system for considering the costs and benefits, both economic and environmental, of large projects. (Maine went down this road with the passage of the Informed Growth Act in 2007, but the state’s unpopular governor, Paul LePage, gutted the law soon after taking office in 2011.) A handful of cities now require economic impact studies for large-scale retail development, but one of the advantages of Cape Cod’s approach is that it’s regional, so developers can’t just threaten to move next door if one municipality says no.

Land-use policy is one of the most powerful — and underutilized — tools communities have for steering the evolution of their economies. With the global corporate economy rife with hidden costs and consequences, more communities would do well to take advantage of it.
 
At the same time, I get the feeling that many people I saw at Ped Sunday yesterday shop at Walmart. Most of them looked like suburbanites. Maybe a Walmart would fend of K-markets gentrification and create a bit more interesting retail mix instead of the move towards all tacos all the time--which is sort of becoming a bore.

I was thinking yesterday that what K-market needs is a real public square--perhaps Bellevue Square should become a real square--ie less grass and more paving stones. Bellevue Square could be the centre of the market with bands and artists performing on weekends. I think the "fake" pedestrian Sunday thing has run its course as its become too mainstream. Kensington--like Walmart--is surrounded by acres of parking lots.

With the condo boom slowing, Bathurst is probably another 20 years away from becoming prime midrise residential territory--so RioCan's Walmart move is just a "temp" phase in the eventual makeover of the street.
 
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Small towns (20 times smaller than Metro Toronto, 50 times smaller than Ward 20) are much more likely to feel an impact from new retail than any metropolis.
Thank you for implying that Ward 20 is much larger than Metro Toronto.
 
At the same time, I get the feeling that many people I saw at Ped Sunday yesterday shop at Walmart. Most of them looked like suburbanites. Maybe a Walmart would fend of K-markets gentrification and create a bit more interesting retail mix instead of the move towards all tacos all the time--which is sort of becoming a bore.
I'm happy to see Kensington Market's gentrification, because a lot of the stores 20 years ago sucked. Now we have a much better mix. In my "gentrification" description I include the trendy used clothing stores, etc., not just the addition of Cob's Bread, and the like.

I don't understand why you think it's becoming "all tacos all the time".

With the condo boom slowing, Bathurst is probably another 20 years away from becoming prime midrise residential territory--so RioCan's Walmart move is just a "temp" phase in the eventual makeover of the street.
I've made a similar comment before. Bathurst in that area is not likely to see real improvement for some time. However, if a Wal-Mart is there already, it's unlikely they'll be inclined to move just because a few condo builders are wanting the space. That said, I'd much rather a Wal-Mart there than right IN Kensington Market. It's an area which seems currently appropriate for a Wal-Mart, and it's far enough away from Kensington Market to not impact the nice aspects of Kensington Market. However, perhaps it will induce an improvement in selection and quality in Kensington Market to get more people to shop there for basic stuff like produce.

Why go to Kensington Market for tomatoes in 2013? It's not as if the stores there have any real draw for that sort of basic stuff, unless perhaps you're talking strictly organic groceries. You go to Kensington Market for the cheese selection and prices, great empanadas, and trendy knick knack stores. If you go to Kensington Market specifically for the non-organic produce, then you're missing out on the better quality and pricing a block away in Chinatown, which incidentally is also better than Wal-Mart in many instances.
 
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I'll bet most malls and stores have signs that prohibit dogs (excluding service dogs). Hence, the reason why the dogs get left in cars. Owners should tie their dogs to posts, or some other shady places, but not in cars.
 
I'll bet most malls and stores have signs that prohibit dogs (excluding service dogs). Hence, the reason why the dogs get left in cars. Owners should tie their dogs to posts, or some other shady places, but not in cars.

They just shouldn't take them to the mall, period.
 
Pay some teenager to walk the dog at minimum wage. It is better than having the dog melt in the car (and the dog gets exercise) and it helps reduce unemployment (and the teenager would get to have work experience as well).
 
Malls should employ dog walkers to deal with this problem. Or a mall pet store offer this service.

Create an app, put up the sign, $10/hr and you're in biz.

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Vaughn Mills has security guards asking every car entering to see if they have a pet with them. If they do, security tells them ya, we'll keep an eye on your car (more specifically the pet in your car) and if they show signs of heat exhaustion, they will call the police.

Like your mall pet store idea too.
 

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