freshcutgrass
Senior Member
From my perspective anyway, the whole alt/indie sound..*whatever*... hit its apex with Cowboy Junkies Trinity Sessions. Recorded in a day on a single mike direct to a DAT machine in the church behind the Eaton Centre (that's my sketchy tie in to keep my post on topic). They paid the security guy $25 so they could stay an extra 2 hrs.
Absolutely, but style is important in and of itself. And isn't it nice when bands can combine style and talent? Roxy Music and Bowie managed to do it in both the pre and post MTV era. I can even handle style over substance, if the style is that good. Sometimes you just want to have fun.
Sticking to the 1977 theme, while I liked a bit of all the genres happening at the time, I preferred Disco over Punk. While they were both very indulgent, it was Disco that had the better production values. Take a disco band like Chic. Besides having some very cool tunes, It died when disco died, but Nile Rodgers influence as a producer, songwriter, musician, composer, arranger, guitarist was, and still is...legendary. After helping to reinvent Bowie for the 80's with Let's Dance, he went on to invent Madonna...Like a Virgin is basically just Chic with Madonna singing vocals.
*edit* Oh yea...Daft Punk's Get Lucky is basically just Chic as well. Rodgers wrote it. produced it and that's his signature guitar on the track. Every time disco reappears from the dead, there seems to be a party. When's the last time you saw the people at the Grammys have that much fun? But I think I prefer the 90's disco revival ala Jamiroquai.
*double edit* Back to hip hop, Rodgers is also inadvertently responsible for what is arguably the first hip hop record...Rappers Delight by The Sugarhill Gang. You will see his name on the record as the co-writer. But only because he threatened to sue, because it's a complete rip off of his tune Good Times.
That's why I hate the entire hip hop culture...it's about getting ahead the easiest way possible, and being legal or not is of no matter. That's why gangs and drug dealing is completely linked to hip hop culture, and why hip hop music is about stealing it, rather than making it. And all the sugar coating about it being an "art form" isn't going to change that.
Image is completely irrelevant to creating good music.
Absolutely, but style is important in and of itself. And isn't it nice when bands can combine style and talent? Roxy Music and Bowie managed to do it in both the pre and post MTV era. I can even handle style over substance, if the style is that good. Sometimes you just want to have fun.
Sticking to the 1977 theme, while I liked a bit of all the genres happening at the time, I preferred Disco over Punk. While they were both very indulgent, it was Disco that had the better production values. Take a disco band like Chic. Besides having some very cool tunes, It died when disco died, but Nile Rodgers influence as a producer, songwriter, musician, composer, arranger, guitarist was, and still is...legendary. After helping to reinvent Bowie for the 80's with Let's Dance, he went on to invent Madonna...Like a Virgin is basically just Chic with Madonna singing vocals.
*edit* Oh yea...Daft Punk's Get Lucky is basically just Chic as well. Rodgers wrote it. produced it and that's his signature guitar on the track. Every time disco reappears from the dead, there seems to be a party. When's the last time you saw the people at the Grammys have that much fun? But I think I prefer the 90's disco revival ala Jamiroquai.
*double edit* Back to hip hop, Rodgers is also inadvertently responsible for what is arguably the first hip hop record...Rappers Delight by The Sugarhill Gang. You will see his name on the record as the co-writer. But only because he threatened to sue, because it's a complete rip off of his tune Good Times.
That's why I hate the entire hip hop culture...it's about getting ahead the easiest way possible, and being legal or not is of no matter. That's why gangs and drug dealing is completely linked to hip hop culture, and why hip hop music is about stealing it, rather than making it. And all the sugar coating about it being an "art form" isn't going to change that.
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