salsa
Senior Member
I've used the rapidway a few times, but I've never seen the buses move that fast.
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I've used the rapidway a few times, but I've never seen the buses move that fast.
Markster
Senior Member
Wow, it really makes that long automated announcement at every stop?
TJ O'Pootertoot
Senior Member
Totally agree. I don't know what those guys have been on about the past few years but without Perelli and Papa, Greg Beros won't have anyone to play "Troublemaker" with. Good riddance. Those guys seemed to wait to hear what the mayor was going to say and then take up the opposite position on principle.
Vaughan, on the other hand will hopefully actually try to make VMC happen the way it should - what other growth centres wouldn't do for a real, honest-to-goodness subway! - but I'm not optimistic at all; not when DiBiase is the leading regional vote getter a week after CBC reports on the same contractor that built (And screwed up) city hall working on his cottage. Just, sigh.
Electrify
Senior Member
It was a Pink route, don't know if that has anything to do with it.
wilson_wu
Active Member
Jaysus. Bayview to Warden in 12 minutes at the height of rush hour?
Definitely would not have been able to do that pre-rapidway.
But yes, normally the buses don't go this fast. They usually slog through the rapidway at 30km/hr the entire way. They really should look into getting rid of the 20km/hr through intersection restrictions. Obviously the driver in the video is breaking rules.
smallspy
Senior Member
You're right, buses don't normally go that fast on it. It depends on the schedule - they still haven't fully adjusted it, as they are waiting for the final leg of it to open before finalizing everything.
As for "breaking the rules", the restriction at intersections is 40km/h, not 20. 20km/h only applies when bypassing stations.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
BMO
Senior Member
As much as the ridership is declining I think it's only fair that we take a look after the rapidways are complete. Sure the initial section on Hwy 7 is completed but the scope of riders it can attract are greatly limited, especially considering a large chunk are going to Finch or transferring to Blue. It's a piece of the puzzle, but nto all the pieces are there for potential riders to "see" the advantages on a wider scale as opposed to just a small fraction of roadway.
I firmly believe that once the rapidways are completed, the landscape of transit ridership will change substantially in the region. Being able to have reliable (key word) service from all four corners of the region will be a great advantage for supporting the more local routes. I can imagine that once the rapidway is complete there'll be more of a focus on smaller local routes that feed to the rapidway as to mitigate the need for local routes to provide long trips. The rapidway could provide a faster trip with three transfers as opposed to a theoretical trip on a local route with no transfers.
It'll be interesting to see. The only thing I'm not sure about this whole project is the bike lanes. They're uninviting and the stations do nothing to integrate them. There's a bunch of extra space on the brt platforms, I'm surprised there wasn't any foresight to add bike lockers or locking stands for bikers.
I firmly believe that once the rapidways are completed, the landscape of transit ridership will change substantially in the region. Being able to have reliable (key word) service from all four corners of the region will be a great advantage for supporting the more local routes. I can imagine that once the rapidway is complete there'll be more of a focus on smaller local routes that feed to the rapidway as to mitigate the need for local routes to provide long trips. The rapidway could provide a faster trip with three transfers as opposed to a theoretical trip on a local route with no transfers.
It'll be interesting to see. The only thing I'm not sure about this whole project is the bike lanes. They're uninviting and the stations do nothing to integrate them. There's a bunch of extra space on the brt platforms, I'm surprised there wasn't any foresight to add bike lockers or locking stands for bikers.
MisterF
Senior Member
I don't know where this rumour about the 20 km/h speed limit comes from, but I've never seen a Viva bus do that when going through a station when it doesn't stop. They don't slow down at all.
Electrify
Senior Member
Perhaps another video is in order? Part of the reason I recorded this was because I wanted to create some video evidence of a very slow rapidway. Also why I was recording the speed on my tablet, especially going through intersections. The return trip took a bit longer, but it was still pretty fast and was going faster than 20km/h in and around stations. I've been on it since to vote, so I only took it to East Beaver Creek. Still relatively quick and smooth.
smallspy
Senior Member
It's not a rumour - it's a rule. 20km/h when bypassing stations, 40km/h at all intersections, and 60km/h maximum on the busway.
Of course there are going to be drivers who risk breaking the rules. How many auto drivers do you see who drive higher than the speed limit?
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
MisterF
Senior Member
Out of curiosity, do you have a source for that rule?
Electrify
Senior Member
MisterF
Senior Member
Interesting. Kind of a pointless rule. By the same logic we should make the speed limit 20 on every street that has sidewalks.
Electrify
Senior Member
Well as the video I posted demonstrated, fewer and fewer drivers seem to be following it. If someone wants to record a Viva ride where the bus is going extra slow, please share it with me. As I said upthread, I have a media contact at the Richmond Hill Liberal who could use the story.
doady
Senior Member
Why are VIVA buses bypassing transitway stations in the first place? I don't understand.