christiesplits
Senior Member
For those who have been following Crosstown closely, are there any new hints or tea leaves from today on the opening date?
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Coolibop
Active Member
If Phil doesn't know (he wouldn't confirm '24 opening), I don't think anyone does at this stage. There are too many variables yet.
toronto647
Active Member
Do you mean to say, that this project could be pushed into 2025?
Obsidian
Active Member
no one can say until they identify and address all the defects.
drum118
Superstar
It depends on the defects themselves to the point some defects could be work on once substantial completion can be had along with the 3 months of full testing of service on the line to finally seeing that missing opening date. Only have to look at residential towers where people have moved in with work still taking place on the building.
Have done outstanding work on projects that have been turn over to the owner due to other trades holding me up from completing my work.
It would be nice to see everything 100% completed when the opening date is announce.
micheal_can
Senior Member
I feel the problem of being vague at this point is that it is causing a loss of trust on the project. For instance, if the reason you need to wait for warmer weather is landscaping, vs other reasons, then say it. The fact we are this close with no date is now making it sound like the REM and how they wanted 30 days of continuous running without faults before opening.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Here's the Global News report:
globalnews.ca
Metrolinx CEO ‘not going to guess’ when Eglinton Crosstown LRT will open - Toronto | Globalnews.ca
During a tour of the route's Eglinton Station, Metrolinx CEO Phil Verster said he was 'not going to guess' when the route would open.
globalnews.ca
Mount Dennis Resident
Active Member
People have moved into houses without the grass nor driveway paved. Paving of driveways is best left to a year or so after to let the ground settle, and people are already living in them.
crs1026
Superstar
I am scratching my head about what kind of work ought to wait until spring. Construction seems to mostly continue with winter temperatures, certainly concrete can continue to be poured with the right measures and protection. But frozen ground does change some things.
- Paul
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hawc
Senior Member
2026 at this point. We're still 2 years out.
Might be faster to pull up the tracks and just pave it. Run one lane of vehicle traffic each way like on Bloor Street. Or make them extra wide bike lanes with no cars.
Might be faster to pull up the tracks and just pave it. Run one lane of vehicle traffic each way like on Bloor Street. Or make them extra wide bike lanes with no cars.
drum118
Superstar
Maybe they have to wait until underground water is flowing freely to see where the leaks are in the stations and tunnels so they can fix them.
Frozen ground requires more effector and labour work, but can be done at a higher cost doing so.
Look at how they built the Finch guideway and trackwork where tents where built over it with heaters being used to keep things warm.
They are currently doing the heating on Mississauga guideway at Eglinton for the Hurontario LRT as well at a number of other locations with tarp over the areas.
eglinton1661
New Member
Text: Officials say one of the emerging issues that has come up with construction is new water drainage issues (something they say isn’t uncommon with deep tunnels). They say they’ve had to create new channels to redirect small water streams into drainage systems.
Text: We repeatedly asked Metrolinx CEO Phil Verster about opening date. He reiterated one wouldn’t be given until three months before opening, citing ongoing tests/commissioning and rectifying defects. Staff noted final track fixes need to occur in hotter months (sounds like late ‘24)
Text: We repeatedly asked Metrolinx CEO Phil Verster about opening date. He reiterated one wouldn’t be given until three months before opening, citing ongoing tests/commissioning and rectifying defects. Staff noted final track fixes need to occur in hotter months (sounds like late ‘24)
44 North
Senior Member
my gosh this project has dragged on too long. Beyond bad and countless black eyes for Metrolinx. Definitely a lot of noise when TYSSE went months late. Surprised not as much noise when it's Crosstown being many years overdue.
cplchanb
Senior Member
What other serious issues were there that they said would be revealed? I can hardly believe a few water drips in the ceilings would paralyze and entire line
chrisw
Active Member
Well, you could use heaters to fix the track?
I watched this recent video on continuous welded rail. They weld the track at higher temperatures so there's less chance of buckling at high temperatures.
I watched this recent video on continuous welded rail. They weld the track at higher temperatures so there's less chance of buckling at high temperatures.