Barnaby
Senior Member
I'm interpreting it as 2025. I don't want to look at that warzone for another year.
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northlands
Senior Member
Pretty sure it's just poor wording (or the CBC entirely misunderstood the City)
kcantor
Senior Member
Sooo… “Edmonton needs to make its public spaces, particularly downtown, more accessible and fun”.
From beginning to end the Imagine Jasper project will have taken about as long to build as the TMX pipeline expansion from here to Burnaby.
All those endless summers of construction disruption in order to bring accessibility and fun to downtown while inflicting death by a thousand cuts in the interim.
Note to file: This is a comment on project management and implementation, not on the end product if and when we ever get an end product.
From beginning to end the Imagine Jasper project will have taken about as long to build as the TMX pipeline expansion from here to Burnaby.
All those endless summers of construction disruption in order to bring accessibility and fun to downtown while inflicting death by a thousand cuts in the interim.
Note to file: This is a comment on project management and implementation, not on the end product if and when we ever get an end product.
TAS
Senior Member
I believe administration's recommendation for the 2018-21 budget was that council fund the full Imagine Jasper Ave project and complete it in one budget cycle.
But that council elected to fund 1/3rd of it and keep tax rates low and kick the can down the road. And now this current council is taking on the final 2/3rds of the project which adds to the tax levy. This current council could have also just funded 1/3rd again and kicked the can further down the road for the final 1/3rd and much of the public that doesn't give two cents about Jasper Ave would perhaps be paying lower taxes.
Greenspace
Senior Member
The most important part of Jasper Ave to get done imo. Can't wait. I'm pretty happy with how 109-114 st turned out, especially the amount of greenery. PCL was able to get that done in 2 seasons.
Gronk!
Senior Member
Not to poop on anyone's party or anything, but the Jasper Ave redo from 102 St to 109 St still needs to get done sometime within the foreseeable future.
Greenspace
Senior Member
As mentioned, it's currently unfunded. And it's not in the CRL projections which go until 2034. So not sure where the money is coming for that unless future council makes it a priority.
TAS
Senior Member
Based on that timeline, the remaining portion may be a 4 year project, or maybe it could be done in 3.
David A
Senior Member
We may have arrived at the worst of all worlds - the can gets kicked further down and tax increases are still unbearably high. Gee, I wonder why the current council is not more popular?
The only good thing may be a bit of a reprieve from years of construction and disruption from downtown. I don't think our city officials appreciate how terribly disruptive all this has been for businesses and others in the area.
TAS
Senior Member
I don't understand what you are saying. Do you think this council's decision of funding the remaining amount of this project is good? Do you think the whole thing should be delayed as a reprieve of construction?
_urbanite
Senior Member
Ok, fine (well, not really, but ok..). But in the meantime, can we find time and resources to remove this ugly, decaying flower bed? Seriously, this could possibly be there until 2034?!? like 50+ years after it was installed?
Give me a jackhammer and I'll do it for free over a weekend. Heck, maybe we can get the Downtown community league in on this. Sell "demo permits" to anyone who wants to help. $10 gets you 10 mins with the jackhammer. We can time it for a farmer's market weekend. We'll let people can keep chunks of it as a souvenir to put on their fireplace mantle
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Airboy
Senior Member
The last section will take quite a long time. We all forget there are a couple of LRT station roofs that will need to be resealed. So easily 4 years. The work has been differed but is coming do.
Gronk!
Senior Member
Ok, fine (well, not really, but ok..). But in the meantime, can we find time and resources to remove this ugly, decaying flower bed? Seriously, this could possibly be there until 2034?!? like 50+ years after it was installed?
Give me a jackhammer and I'll do it for free over a weekend. Heck, maybe we can get the Downtown community league in on this. Sell "demo" permits to anyone who wants to help. $10 gets you 10 mins with the jackhammer. We can time it for a farmer's market weekend. We'll let people can keep chunks of it as a souvenir to put on their fireplace mantle
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If you're selling tickets then save me a couple.
TAS
Senior Member
Here is the timeline for the 114-124st Jasper Ave work starting this spring and a completion in 2027.
Unlike the 109-114st section, where they did westbound lanes one year followed by the eastbound lanes the next, with this next round of work both sides of the street will be completed in the same year and then they move further west. One lane will remain open in each direction for the 3 or 4 blocks where work is taking place and then Jasper Ave is fully open elsewhere.
The 114-124st project is about $30 million - and $8.7million of that is funded from the federal government's active transportation fund.
Unlike the 109-114st section, where they did westbound lanes one year followed by the eastbound lanes the next, with this next round of work both sides of the street will be completed in the same year and then they move further west. One lane will remain open in each direction for the 3 or 4 blocks where work is taking place and then Jasper Ave is fully open elsewhere.
The 114-124st project is about $30 million - and $8.7million of that is funded from the federal government's active transportation fund.
IanO
Superstar
No ping pong?