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votemac said:
The new (sloppy) bike lane lines on the Esplanade after many months of nothing. People in their cars are still driving the wrong way down the "no entry" portion of the street though.

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The City are aware of .....deficiencies here.

I am hopeful of corrective action, TBD.
 
votemac said:
The new (sloppy) bike lane lines on the Esplanade after many months of nothing. People in their cars are still driving the wrong way down the "no entry" portion of the street though.

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Wow you weren’t kidding about sloppy! What the hell happened here? Is this a crime scene? Looks like a wrong way driver ran over the guy while he was painting the bike lanes?!
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Somehow they managed to do a worse job than the original bike lanes. The red bus sections are also much smaller than they were before. I guess they don’t think enough drivers were ignoring them (there were plenty!).
 
slicecom said:
Wow you weren’t kidding about sloppy! What the hell happened here? Is this a crime scene? Looks like a wrong way driver ran over the guy while he was painting the bike lanes?!
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Somehow they managed to do a worse job than the original bike lanes. The red bus sections are also much smaller than they were before. I guess they don’t think enough drivers were ignoring them (there were plenty!).
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My understanding is this is temporary until the bike lanes are redone and raised to sidewalk height later this year? As per:

DSCToronto said:
The work is ongoing...

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Cycling told me last week that:

In parallel to this is the work we are bundling cycletrack upgrades with the delivery of the David Crombie Park (DCP) Revitalization project, which is wrapping up design and should start construction mid-summer. It will include raising the quick-build two-way cycletrack between George Street and Berkeley Street/Hahn Place to sidewalk height. The DCP construction will also make the connection west to Market Street, as this work had to be deferred from the 2024 plan due to coordination with the temporary St. Lawrence Market tent, which is located between Market Street and Jarvis Street. There is a mailing list for DCP under the “Get Involved” tab on the project website, in case you’d like to subscribe to project updates.
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Also did the extension of these lanes to Yonge get cancelled?
 
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bearcat said:
My understanding is this is temporary until the bike lanes are r done and raised to sidewalk height later this year? As per:



Also did the extension of these lanes to Yonge get cancelled?
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Answered just upthread on the previous page:
reinventingthewheel said:
It’s being tied into the David Crombie Park revitalization, with the following advertised timeline, which may well have slipped since being published late last year.

East of Jarvis The Esplanade is very lightly trafficked so I’m sure there haven’t been many cyclist complaints about all the rejigging. It’s still disappointing though.
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bearcat said:
My understanding is this is temporary until the bike lanes are r done and raised to sidewalk height later this year? As per:



Also did the extension of these lanes to Yonge get cancelled?
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Read above - the City doc I posted last week , they are doing them to Scott.
 
slicecom said:
Scott is disappointing considering there are already bike lanes on Yonge south of front, and Yonge obviously makes a lot more useful 2 way connections than Scott.
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It is about 70 meters and 30 of it has the entrance/exit of the Green P plus the garage to Backstage. How would you put a proper lane there???
 
DSCToronto said:
Read above - the City doc I posted last week , they are doing them to Scott.
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My apologies, I saw Scott Street and for some reason it didn't click. I think the original proposal was all the way to Yonge with the intersection having a bike signal there as well for crossing.
 

TEYCC tomorrow:​

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TE21.52 - Design Revision to the Woodbine Cycle Track​

Consideration Type: ACTIONWard: 19 - Beaches - East York
Attention
This item has not yet been added to the agenda. The Committee must vote to add this item as new business before it can be debated. Any person wishing to speak will only be heard if the item is added to the agenda.

Origin​

(April 2, 2025) Letter from Councillor Brad Bradford

Recommendations​

Councillor Brad Bradford recommends that:

1. City Council direct the General Manager, Transportation Services to remove the concrete curbs on the east side cycle track of Woodbine Avenue between Danforth Avenue and 55 metres north.

Summary​

In May 2017, City Council approved the installation of cycle tracks on Woodbine Avenue (2017.MM29.38). During recent planned and unplanned subway outages, the TTC has experienced operational challenges for shuttle buses servicing Woodbine Subway Station.

I have observed these challenges firsthand and have heard concerns from the community about difficulties accessing shuttle buses during subway service disruptions. Ensuring reliable and efficient transit options is a priority, especially when the subway is not running.

The purpose of this motion is to request Transportation Services to revise the design of the Woodbine Avenue cycle tracks by removing the concrete curbs along the east side of the cycle track between Danforth Avenue and Strathmore Boulevard. This change will allow for additional buses to serve passengers on Woodbine Avenue, improving TTC operations and transit accessibility during subway outages.

Background Information​

(April 2, 2025) Letter from Councillor Brad Bradford on Design Revision to the Woodbine Cycle Track
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-254267.pdf
 
DSCToronto said:

TEYCC tomorrow:​

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TE21.52 - Design Revision to the Woodbine Cycle Track​

Consideration Type: ACTIONWard: 19 - Beaches - East York
Attention
This item has not yet been added to the agenda. The Committee must vote to add this item as new business before it can be debated. Any person wishing to speak will only be heard if the item is added to the agenda.

Origin​

(April 2, 2025) Letter from Councillor Brad Bradford

Recommendations​

Councillor Brad Bradford recommends that:

1. City Council direct the General Manager, Transportation Services to remove the concrete curbs on the east side cycle track of Woodbine Avenue between Danforth Avenue and 55 metres north.

Summary​

In May 2017, City Council approved the installation of cycle tracks on Woodbine Avenue (2017.MM29.38). During recent planned and unplanned subway outages, the TTC has experienced operational challenges for shuttle buses servicing Woodbine Subway Station.

I have observed these challenges firsthand and have heard concerns from the community about difficulties accessing shuttle buses during subway service disruptions. Ensuring reliable and efficient transit options is a priority, especially when the subway is not running.

The purpose of this motion is to request Transportation Services to revise the design of the Woodbine Avenue cycle tracks by removing the concrete curbs along the east side of the cycle track between Danforth Avenue and Strathmore Boulevard. This change will allow for additional buses to serve passengers on Woodbine Avenue, improving TTC operations and transit accessibility during subway outages.

Background Information​

(April 2, 2025) Letter from Councillor Brad Bradford on Design Revision to the Woodbine Cycle Track
https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2025/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-254267.pdf
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Should replace it with a raised cycle track at sidewalk level. Buses can board through the cycle track.
 
I think raised cycle tracks are generally safer, pedestrians can easily walk across it, bikes need to yield to pedestrians boarding transit. You can use temporary ones like on King Street.

It's ripe for Bus/Bike conflict with curbs removed. Buses have to merge completely into the bike lane to pick up passengers. Buses can cut off bikes, bikes not sure if the bus is going to yield.
 
bearcat said:
Should replace it with a raised cycle track at sidewalk level. Buses can board through the cycle track.
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Odd that Bradford refers to community complaints - and nothing from the TTC.

Removing the concrete barriers will turn the bike lane into kiss and go parking for the subway station.

What was his election promise - let's kill more cyclists?
 
nfitz said:
Odd that Bradford refers to community complaints - and nothing from the TTC.

Removing the concrete barriers will turn the bike lane into kiss and go parking for the subway station.

What was his election promise - let's kill more cyclists?
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Bradford is a cyclist, but everything I see from him suggests that he is going the populist route in support of a future run at becoming mayor
 
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