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Admiral Beez said:
Could we see Trudeau revisit this soon if it stands a chance of torpedoing the Con's chances? The LPC is smoked under the current system, so you might as well set a torch to the lot on your way out.
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The problem is that they have no legitimacy to implement this policy at this point. The Conservatives will, rightly, scream bloody murder that Trudeau is trying to rig the system to save his party.
 
Legitimacy is a fickle thing. They had a mandate in 2015. Not so much anymore. Especially when you're talking about changing the rules of the game. It has to be above reproach.
 
Admiral Beez said:
Could we see Trudeau revisit this soon if it stands a chance of torpedoing the Con's chances? The LPC is smoked under the current system, so you might as well set a torch to the lot on your way out.
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I suppose they could try, but most alternative voting systems tend to fragment voting intentions. It might block the CPC but it also might be seen to fragment their own base. No clue how the numbers would turn out and I doubt they would try until the party has gamed it. By the time a Bill is drafted and run through the legislative process, I'm not sure there would be enough time unless they have a Bill in their back pocket. I would imagine the Senate would bog it down as best they could.

Any proposed system that has any impact on ridings would impact Elections Canada as well as all the party riding associations, fundraising, etc.
 
Minister of Labour and Seniors Seamus O’Regan announced he's resigning from Trudeau's cabinet and not running for re-election.

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Longtime Liberal minister Seamus O’Regan quitting cabinet - National | Globalnews.ca

O’Regan is a longtime Newfoundland MP who was first elected for St. John’s South-Mount Pearl in 2015. The announcement comes as the Liberals continue to wane in popularity.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see more cabinet ministers say they're not running for re-election in the coming months. A lucrative role in the private sector is more appealing than four years in the opposition benches, especially if you don't have leadership ambitions.
 
lenaitch said:
I suppose they could try…. By the time a Bill is drafted and run through the legislative process, I'm not sure there would be enough time unless they have a Bill in their back pocket. I would imagine the Senate would bog it down as best they could.
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Unless the NDP votes out the government aren’t we more than a year away from an election in Oct 2025? That might be sufficient time. Trudeau’s 2015 proposal was for a referendum - I’m not sure if that would expedite or delay any decisions and implementations.

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Why Trudeau Abandoned Electoral Reform | Literary Review of Canada

It was incontestably part of the Liberal platform in 2015. Liberal leader Justin Trudeau solemnly pledged to change the electoral system so that the next election, presumably in 2019, would be decided by a new way to count votes. The Special Committee on Electoral Reform was created in the...
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afransen said:
Legitimacy is a fickle thing. They had a mandate in 2015. Not so much anymore. Especially when you're talking about changing the rules of the game. It has to be above reproach.
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When has anybody cared about legitimacy when doing drastic things in recent memory?

They didn't run on letting in a million marginally qualified immigrants per year. They did it anyway.

Would it be bad for democracy? Absolutely. Does anybody actually care about democracy these days? Probably the Ukrainians more than us.
 
kEiThZ said:
They didn't run on letting in a million marginally qualified immigrants per year. They did it anyway.
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I can't see the upside for Trudeau or the LPC in this at all. You're not creating a reliable pool of future LPC voters. You're reducing the cost of labour for menial and lowskilled work, but the owners of that work won't be swayed to vote LPC either way.

Did Trudeau ever tell us why he was boosting immigration?
 
Towered said:
Japan is far worse off in that regard - why aren't they scrambling to import foreign workers?
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Japan will be fine. Eventually when the last two sources of overpopulated cheap labour, Africa and the Indian subcontinent modernize their birthrates will also plummet. So, we might as well prepare ourselves and follow Japan's lead on how to address the issues without relying on migration.
 
Admiral Beez said:
I can't see the upside for Trudeau or the LPC in this at all. You're not creating a reliable pool of future LPC voters. You're reducing the cost of labour for menial and lowskilled work, but the owners of that work won't be swayed to vote LPC either way.

Did Trudeau ever tell us why he was boosting immigration?
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I'm not sure how much of this was intentional or just a lack of control. They relaxed some rules around student visas and how schools could bring in international students and the numbers absolutely exploded. I don't think there were targets or quotas involved. More incompetence and lack of foresight.
 
Towered said:
Japan is far worse off in that regard - why aren't they scrambling to import foreign workers?
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They chose to have a less robust pension plan for their ageing population. We could certainly make that change here, but I doubt that will win any elections.
 
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