fjordgard
Active Member
St. Albert was already split last time between St. Albert and Morinville-St. Albert. Split Beaumont is certainly a choice that I suspect will not end up in the final map, but who knows.
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The_Cat
Senior Member
I think the sad thing about suburban constituencies is that many people think they’re still rural.
archited
Senior Member
Or it is willful watering down of an Urban Constituency for political gain.
The_Cat
Senior Member
Some weird ones I saw:
Calgary-Okotoks - wouldn’t Okotoks be better off with Diamond Valley?
Edmonton-Enoch - Enoch has more urban elements, but wouldn’t the be better off with Spruce Grove.
Stony Plain-Drayton Valley-Devon - Do Stony Plain and Drayton Valley jive
I think geopolitical interests are better served with places like Lethbridge having their own MLAs.
Calgary-Okotoks - wouldn’t Okotoks be better off with Diamond Valley?
Edmonton-Enoch - Enoch has more urban elements, but wouldn’t the be better off with Spruce Grove.
Stony Plain-Drayton Valley-Devon - Do Stony Plain and Drayton Valley jive
I think geopolitical interests are better served with places like Lethbridge having their own MLAs.
fjordgard
Active Member
The report itself admits that Calgary-Okotoks isn't perfect and they have an alternate proposal that I believe does just what you suggested. My guess would be that this gets changed in the final report.
Enoch is strange, but the report notes that there are more and more ties between Enoch and Edmonton. I think this one is fine.
Agree re Stony Plain-Drayton Valley-Devon. I think they struggled around the "Edmonton Donut" and need to revisit a few of those.
kcantor
Senior Member
EVERYTHING this government does is willfully done for political gain no matter how embarrassing or egregious it is.
kcantor
Senior Member
I think - hope - you will be wrong. Every year that goes by there are more and more Albertans whose pappys and grandpappys wouldn’t have been able to find Alberta on a map.
archited
Senior Member
This playing with constituency ridings' boundaries is a direct cop from Trump's playbook -- draw in enough ruralites to counter the progressive edge of urbanites so we win more often -- to hell with what the people actually want. It's Politicos picking votes instead of people picking their desired representatives... the latter being the way democracy is supposed to work.EVERYTHING this government does is willfully done for political gain no matter how embarrassing or egregious it is.
The_Cat
Senior Member
I think some constituencies have a culture of “don’t you dare criticize…”, which mean things don’t change.
trevorhayden
Active Member
That situation is slowly changing as more people move into cities and towns
The_Cat
Senior Member
I wonder if the Alberta Next committtee will be spanked!
edmontonjournal.com
Province misses OIPC deadline to release Alberta Next survey results
The government has refused to release results of the surveys following multiple access to information requests from Postmedia.
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CplKlinger
Senior Member
The real problem is that successive governments refused to meaningfully increase the number of MLAs even as our population exploded. In 1986, we had 83 MLAs representing 2.3 million Albertans, or around 27,000 people per constituency. Under the latest changes to the Elections Act, there will now be 89 MLAs representing 5.03 million Albertans, or approximately 56,500 people per constituency.
These hybrid electoral districts are an unfortunate product of the tension between a rapidly increasing gap between urban and rural population numbers, and a reluctance to cut a load of rural ridings to mitigate this. Personally, I think the ideal solution would be for us to aim for a much lower average population for constituencies; if that fails, then more ridings should be shifted from rural to urban. Land doesn't vote, people do.
That being said though, these commissioners really do have a wicked problem; all solutions create their own problems. If they create/maintain hybrid urban-rural ridings, they'll be accused of trying to dilute the urban vote. If they consolidate rural ridings to create more urban ones, they'll be chastised for trying to dilute the rural vote. Meanwhile, the government gets away with diluting all of our votes by keeping the number of our elected representatives artificially low.
If anyone's interested, here are the rules they're bound by (taken from their interim report).
And the segment discussing seat counts.
trevorhayden
Active Member
Proportional representation now!
CplKlinger
Senior Member
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