Dan416
Senior Member
Why is it such a secret what number MTO has chosen anyway?
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innsertnamehere
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Doesn’t want to release it until the political higher ups bless the number.
Funny enough the 413 was assigned a number earlier in the process as it had become colloquially called that. The media didn’t like the “GTA West Corridor” name so just started calling it the 413 based off a name rumour, and it stuck.
Funny enough the 413 was assigned a number earlier in the process as it had become colloquially called that. The media didn’t like the “GTA West Corridor” name so just started calling it the 413 based off a name rumour, and it stuck.
nfitz
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They've certainly had no problems releasing 400-series numbers very far advance before - to the point that it all changed by the time it was built.
Such as 410 going south all the way to the QEW. And 403 running along Eastgate in the east and joining the 401 further east (and in an even earlier plan hitting the 401/Richview intersection - though I don't know if the number was known back then (perhaps we'd have had a 403/400 interchange!) and 403 running west along the 407 alignment to Burlington and towards London.
It didn't have any traction until the government started using 413. Lucky us.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Because 'Bradford Bypass" sounds much more benign than Hwy 4XX.
Every stretch of road the MTO maintains has a number, whether published or not. I suspect it has been assigned since very early in the planning process.
ShonTron
Moderator
It was a nickname given by both opponents and proponents as it would be the third Toronto bypass, and it fit the pattern of increments of 6: 401-407-413. The next one would be 419.
Deadpool X
Senior Member
And it has ford in its name!
Student99
Active Member
A lot of the 400 series highways seem to be numbered off of nearby regular ontario highways. Like 410 is near highway 10... 427 is near highway 27, 407 is near highway 7...
Don't think that will really work here
Don't think that will really work here
lenaitch
Senior Member
True, but they kinda broke the mould with 409. I suppose it could be 488. We'll see.
2323
New Member
89 is closeby. For a "random" number, the lowest one other than 408 (because of Hwy 8) is 414 (Hwy 14 doesn't exist anymore), which could be used.
Steve X
Senior Member
They started with 400, 401 and 402. The numbers were designated as they are being planned. The next highway was 403. 404 was then designated in the 60s for north of DVP but didn't start till the DVP was done in the late 70s. 405 and 406 follow suit. 407 could have been the 8th highway planned in the 60s oppose to being numbered off highway 7. Then MTO studied some secret 408 and never told us. 409 came after that and then there is 410 (which was also studied in the 60s). So we don't know if 410 was numbered for highway 10 or the 11th planned highway or both. At this point of time (around 1970) they stop numbering highways consecutively. Highway 17 (Queensway) in Ottawa was built and being extended on a new alignment to Montreal for the Olympics. QEW was being extended from Niagara Falls to Fort Erie leaving behind a spur to Rainbow Bridge. Highway 27 was being expanded to the collector-express system. The These freeways gain 400s designation becoming the 417, 420 and 427.
ShonTron
Moderator
The QEW had two branches – the Fort Erie mainline and the Rainbow Bridge Approach. The latter was re-designated Hwy 420 in the 1970s along with reconstruction of the interchange.
innsertnamehere
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Haljackey
Active Member
oooo Are we goona get a Euro-style highway? This is the pic they use on the main page.
Hope it comes with Euro speed limits too.
Questions segment
Civdis
Active Member
Not sure these renders are all that accurate tbh. No centre shoulder would seem odd for a brand new highway
nfitz
Superstar
oooo Are we goona get a Euro-style highway? This is the pic they use on the main page.
Hope it comes with Euro speed limits too.
Yeah, it looks like that now - but give it a few years and it looks like: