[dowlingm]

If you are building gigawatts of new capacity but integrated into a trans-border grid, this would seem an unwise position to take if you want to be seen as a reliable partner over multi-decade time horizons

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-ontario-premiers-meet-justin-trudeau-1.7407948

This is not to say that Ontario or Canada stand idly while That Guy shoots his mouth off - but it just seems like bad timing, especially given the only serious alternative customer, Quebec, is mending fences with Newfoundland and Labrador in this week’s Churchill Falls deal.

 

[crs1026]

This is not to say that Ontario or Canada stand idly while That Guy shoots his mouth off - but it just seems like bad timing, especially given the only serious alternative customer, Quebec, is mending fences with Newfoundland and Labrador in this week’s Churchill Falls deal.

So many Ford pronouncements are walked back when reality sets in, I doubt this one is being taken too seriously..... except..... Canada is clearly heading towards a "discussion" with the new US President - for whom "shooting his mouth off" is a trademark - and it isn't bad to point out that a) Canadian first ministers are aligned and unified with Ottawa on this topic and b) there are potential consequences to what the US is proposing. So it may be effective posturing, with little actual relevance to managing the grid.

- Paul

 

[ericmacm]

There’s a lot at stake in Ontario specifically when it comes to the tariffs situation - the manufacturing industry represents about 13% of total national GDP, with much of it being directly integrated with US manufacturing supply chains. There’s a pretty big chance that tariffs could kill most Canadian manufacturing, especially in the automotive sector, something that affects Ontario disproportionately, with potential to undo all of the work put into battery plants and EV production that has been going on for the last 4 years.

It should be no surprise to see Ford take such an aggressive stance early on when there is so much on the line. Ontario is considering other measures too, like no longer importing US alcohol through LCBO and banning export of critical battery minerals to the US. The optics of seeming like a reliable electricity partner mean little when one policy move on the other side of the border can destroy your entire economy.

 

[SkylineHorizons]

Trump would probably spin it as if he's doing us a favor - don't need more new expensive power plants if you got no light bulbs to light.

 

[lenaitch]

no longer importing US alcohol through LCBO

No more dishwater American beer.

I think I'll survive.

 

[AHK]

It should be no surprise to see Ford take such an aggressive stance early on when there is so much on the line. Ontario is considering other measures too, like no longer importing US alcohol through LCBO .....

The one potential positive out of this, should it happen, might be the availability of BC wines at the LCBO - one can only hope. And should it happen, hopefully it would be difficult for the LCBO / Province to delist them once this tariffs tempest is over.

 

[lenaitch]

The one potential positive out of this, should it happen, might be the availability of BC wines at the LCBO - one can only hope. And should it happen, hopefully it would be difficult for the LCBO / Province to delist them once this tariffs tempest is over.

Actually, the entire range of inter-provincial trade restrictions (and commerce restrictions for that matter) needs to be eliminated.

 

[ericmacm]

Actually, the entire range of inter-provincial trade restrictions (and commerce restrictions for that matter) needs to be eliminated.

Agreed. Some of the biggest fractures that will emerge in the “Team Canada” united approach to handling the next US presidency are due to each province being its own, functionally isolated market having to look out for their own trade-related interests (BC, MB, ON, and QC with all of their own individual hydro export relationships, AB/SK with oil, etc). Not having a true internal common market has harmed us and will continue to do so under Donald Trump.