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UrbanWarrior
Senior Member
One of my favourite sights in Calgary is the silhouette of the Rockies on a nice summer evening. It's a view not many cities have.
Reecemartin
Active Member
Gonna cross post this on a few forums, some comments on a Toronto area forum compared the C-Train to GO transit in many ways and it does seem to be a somewhat apt comparison:
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threa...cluding-extensions.4952/page-826#post-1361622
How do people think we can improve the number of people using the C-Train outside of commuting? TOD, off-peak discount etc?
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threa...cluding-extensions.4952/page-826#post-1361622
How do people think we can improve the number of people using the C-Train outside of commuting? TOD, off-peak discount etc?
Social Justice
Active Member
It's not really an apt comparison. Nor is comparing the C-train to the subway or any other street running LRT an apt comparison.
Do you really want to know more about the C-train? Or are you here to pollute the boards?
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darwink
Senior Member
The system could discount off-peak LRT only trips heavily. I'm not sure whether you would ever find a sweet spot for making the change revenue neutral though.
Reecemartin
Active Member
It's not really an apt comparison. Nor is comparing the C-train to the subway or any other street running LRT an apt comparison.
Do you really want to know more about the C-train? Or are you here to pollute the boards?
Of course, I want to learn more?
Of course, the C-Train and GO aren't the exact same thing but something like Lakeshore West is not that dissimilar in service pattern from the C-Train in that both are largely commuter systems that are accessed through park and rides and neither has huge off-peak utilization.
Reecemartin
Active Member
Well if it attracted more riders then it could certainly be. I mean in any case, if the trains are running how much effect does being a quarter full vs. half full have on costs?
Social Justice
Active Member
Like many commuter and metro systems around the world, the primary purpose of the C-train is to the ferry passengers from the four quadrants of the city to the City Center and back again.
The secondary purpose of the C-train is to provide a 20 hour service to the following 'Institutions' around the city.
Post-Secondary Educational:
-UofC
-SAIT
-ACAD
-Ambrose
-St. Mary's
-(Lots of high schools are also along the C-train lines)
Cultural:
-Zoo
-Science Center
-Jubilee Auditorium
-Glenbow Museum
-Central Library
-National Music Center
-Stampede
-BMO Center(Conferences)
Sports:
-Mcmahon Stadium(Football)
-Saddledome(Hockey)
-Max Bell Arena
-Repsol Center
Malls:
-Chinook
-Sunridge
-Northill
-South Center
The secondary purpose of the C-train is to provide a 20 hour service to the following 'Institutions' around the city.
Post-Secondary Educational:
-UofC
-SAIT
-ACAD
-Ambrose
-St. Mary's
-(Lots of high schools are also along the C-train lines)
Cultural:
-Zoo
-Science Center
-Jubilee Auditorium
-Glenbow Museum
-Central Library
-National Music Center
-Stampede
-BMO Center(Conferences)
Sports:
-Mcmahon Stadium(Football)
-Saddledome(Hockey)
-Max Bell Arena
-Repsol Center
Malls:
-Chinook
-Sunridge
-Northill
-South Center
Reecemartin
Active Member
My point is that while a majority of passengers in most Canadian cities also follow a similar commute pattern of in and out I think the current best practices being employed recognize that you get more ridership and a better roi on the infrastructure when you don't treat servicing all areas of the city as secondary to commuter service.
Social Justice
Active Member
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Social Justice
Active Member
Okay.
darwink
Senior Member
Oh, it isn't about increased costs, but about the loss in revenue.
I don't know if there's a way to increase ridership off hours, other than for the city to keep leveraging the current LRT stations with new development and increased density. In the end transit has only one purpose.....getting people from point A to B. The city needs to fatten up point A and point B, and build better transit into Point A and B from surrounding areas.
As a side note I would point out that during the day (outside of peak hours) and after work until about 7:30pm the trains are still pretty busy, definitely more than half or a quarter full, until you start to get closer to the end of the line.
Reecemartin
Active Member
Would certainly be good to develop more to use counter peak capacity