[Barnaby]

So in the crazy world of meta/facebook i was having a debate with a user who confidently claimed that Edmonton has already received a train from hyundai rotam for the high floor line already.
He emphstically stated "There Hyundai theres 1 already sitting at the OMF garage that operators are using for training they will bring in the other ones once the new garage is constructed they should all be put into production in the next 3 years after the west valley line project is complete"
Then when myself and another user tried to tell him that he was mistaken and these were low floor trains not the new high floor trains by hyundai rotam his answer was
"Paul your wrong but thats okay theres always 1 or 2 of those guys in a comment section that think they know everything beacuse they read some fake news articles" and
"Paul I work with the company that supplies the trains so ya i know a few things"

So in an effort to be fair and potentially admit my mistake who can confirm to me that he indeed is right and we already have a new high floor train sitting here in Edmonton?

No.

 

[Barnaby]

Currently riding the REM in MTL. Edmonton very badly needs fare gates. What a great experience here compared to some days on the ETS LRT.

 

[BASE]

Looks like Bay Area Rapid Transit is happy with their fare gates in terms of fare collection and significantly reduced maintenance required from vandalism.

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7605824174841449759

 

[The_Cat]

 

[J_gordo]

Currently riding the REM in MTL. Edmonton very badly needs fare gates. What a great experience here compared to some days on the ETS LRT.

Everyone keeps voting against it lol

 

[Barnaby]

Everyone keeps voting against it lol

The bleeding hearts wanting a service (business) to act as a homeless shelter are dragging us all down. Needs of the many must outweigh the needs of the few.

This is not an anti shelter post at all. (I actively work on transit in Edmonton, I want the best for customers/riders).

 

[ADob]

The bleeding hearts wanting a service (business) to act as a homeless shelter are dragging us all down. Needs of the many must outweigh the needs of the few.

This is not an anti shelter post at all. (I actively work on transit in Edmonton, I want the best for customers/riders).

I was under the impression that a study had been done and it was found to be unfeasible and unlikely to accomplish what it had set out to do, not based on ideological reasons. THB, I found that surprising.

I used to be one of those bleeding hearts but then moved downtown pre-covid, which pretty much stanched the bleeding. Shelters are shelters; transit is transit. And, as an ongoing and endless response to my performatively woke friends, booting people out and arresting them for open drug use and being general assholes is NOT criminalizing poverty; it's criminalizing criminal behaviours. But yeah, I'm aware I'm pretty much preaching to the choir here.

 

[Kosy123]

I was under the impression that a study had been done and it was found to be unfeasible and unlikely to accomplish what it had set out to do, not based on ideological reasons. THB, I found that surprising.

I used to be one of those bleeding hearts but then moved downtown pre-covid, which pretty much stanched the bleeding. Shelters are shelters; transit is transit. And, as an ongoing and endless response to my performatively woke friends, booting people out and arresting them for open drug use and being general assholes is NOT criminalizing poverty; it's criminalizing criminal behaviours. But yeah, I'm aware I'm pretty much preaching to the choir here.

I saw someone on Reddit say that Seattle got similar results with increased security, but I'm unsure by how much.

Still doesn't solve the issue of transit entrances being the sketchy areas with bad sightlines in downtown tbh.

 

[Barnaby]

I saw someone on Reddit say that Seattle got similar results with increased security, but I'm unsure by how much.

Still doesn't solve the issue of transit entrances being the sketchy areas with bad sightlines in downtown tbh.

Seattle isn't a place I want Edmonton to emulate at all.

Utilizing security also opens up the door to accusations of profiling. Things should be black and white. Pay/tap or stay away.

Montreal does it and it works. Similar climate too.

 

[degrandprix]

Montreal does it and it works. Similar climate too.

How do they keep people from loitering in the entranceways? Or does their fare zone go right to the exterior doors?

 

[Barnaby]

How do they keep people from loitering in the entranceways? Or does their fare zone go right to the exterior doors?

I think they'll just trespass people on the REM. The subway entrances in the central areas are all pretty well integrated into the underground city or institutions. Basically foot traffic and security is the answer to your question.

 

[David A]

Everyone keeps voting against it lol

The stubborn refusal to deal with this by those who could improve the situation, is partly why things are bad here and why we continue to get stuff like this.

 

[The_Cat]

I just hope that security can be continued during the working days. I say continue playing the music in the LRT Stations.

 

[Barnaby]

Tell people and they will say Calgary is just as bad! It’s not Calgary has done a much better job of keeping its downtown safe and even in a potentially dangerous area near the shelter in east village. We have become a joke of a city with the way downtown has been handled.

I've said it before - I think this is a low budget CBC suburban hit piece. Still, the problem with ETS need to be aggressively dealt with.

Not a fan of the CBC or most journalists these days.

Why isn't this a hit piece on EPS or the CROWN? It's because CBC is beholden to the federal government.

 

[constance_chlore]

How do they keep people from loitering in the entranceways? Or does their fare zone go right to the exterior doors?

To be clear, people do loiter in the entranceways in Montreal, but they're harmless. I saw the same woman panhandling at my local metro station for years, but I never saw open drug use.