thommyjo
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I had the same thought. Is it just the distance to the bottom bring longer than on low floor trains?
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dkazzed
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Heavy rail train but the ~2008 delivered Canada Line trains seem to have similar sized windows.
Yea it's a little dark. Interior lighting has hopefully improved like this 2019 Rotem high floor LRV...
Yea it's a little dark. Interior lighting has hopefully improved like this 2019 Rotem high floor LRV...
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Greenspace
Senior Member
Also, ETS has to make their garage longer to accommodate these new trains.
realkevbo
New Member
I take the Canada Line every day and I feel the windows are definitely on the smaller side, but it doesn't matter quite as much as 75% of the Line is underground. The new MK III and V trains on the Expo line on the other hand have massive windows which really make a difference
Glenco
Senior Member
Yet another shout out from our favourite nerd.
TAS
Senior Member
But full length windows on the doors versus the older models which are very tiny.
That will bring in a lot of light and provide an open feel.
The_Cat
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degrandprix
Active Member
Capital line easter egg?
I never noticed this before, in Central and Churchill, at the far end of the platform (southbound end only) it says Mind the gap. Haven't noticed this anywhere else in the system.
Since these were 2 of the original stations, was this something they thought about doing on all platforms but decided not to? Maybe a nod to the London Underground in Canada's "motherland"?
I never noticed this before, in Central and Churchill, at the far end of the platform (southbound end only) it says Mind the gap. Haven't noticed this anywhere else in the system.
Since these were 2 of the original stations, was this something they thought about doing on all platforms but decided not to? Maybe a nod to the London Underground in Canada's "motherland"?
Pro.N
New Member
Not sure about the reasoning, but I catch the train at the front there quite often and for some reason the Central and Churchill platforms are not completely straight at the ends, they gradually taper in towards the center, so when the train stops there's a 4-5inch gap.
degrandprix
Active Member
I think you're right, you can even see the taper in the tile lines! Maybe there was some miscalculation back in the day when they were doing the tunnel boring that caused the tracks to start coming together slightly too early after the end of the platform, enough that the trains would hit the platform without that taper at the end.
The_Cat
Senior Member
I think the curve in the tracks starts right after the station. I’m thinking a half-length of train (articulation in the middle) is about 12 m. When the train leaves, the whole 12 m half of the train would start turning, and the gap is needed so the train doesn’t rub the platform.
EdwardEdm
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There were "mind the gap" signs on the walls as well if I recall. They've been around since the early-mid 2010's, ever since 5 car trains saw use which was fairly frequent at the time.
Both Central and Churchill have this problem to a degree. I'm not sure if it was originally a design issue, but, because of the location of turnouts for the crossovers the platforms taper back a bit. I believe with a 5 car U2 this was fine, less so with a SD160 which overall are slightly longer. Over a 5 car train, the length over couplers is 2.7m longer then a U2.
The northbound platform at Central I believe was fine, with the turnout positioned a little bit further south than the southbound track and just had the signage added.
The southbound platform at Central was not ok. As a result, at the north end (east end geographically) ETS moved the platform gate further into the tunnel, and essentially extended the platform into the tunnel, with a big sign warning that that extension is only for disembarking passengers. A U2 more or less still fits within the station, but with an SD160 train you certainly do get to make use of the platform extension.
Churchill was less exciting, but, I believe the platform gates at the north end were pushed back slightly with new steps to track level, to ever so slightly lengthen the platform and then the signage installed at the south end, although I don't believe the signage was installed initially. I should have photos of the changes when they were new.
I wouldn't doubt that "mind the gap" was inspired by the London Underground.
Both Central and Churchill have this problem to a degree. I'm not sure if it was originally a design issue, but, because of the location of turnouts for the crossovers the platforms taper back a bit. I believe with a 5 car U2 this was fine, less so with a SD160 which overall are slightly longer. Over a 5 car train, the length over couplers is 2.7m longer then a U2.
The northbound platform at Central I believe was fine, with the turnout positioned a little bit further south than the southbound track and just had the signage added.
The southbound platform at Central was not ok. As a result, at the north end (east end geographically) ETS moved the platform gate further into the tunnel, and essentially extended the platform into the tunnel, with a big sign warning that that extension is only for disembarking passengers. A U2 more or less still fits within the station, but with an SD160 train you certainly do get to make use of the platform extension.
Churchill was less exciting, but, I believe the platform gates at the north end were pushed back slightly with new steps to track level, to ever so slightly lengthen the platform and then the signage installed at the south end, although I don't believe the signage was installed initially. I should have photos of the changes when they were new.
I wouldn't doubt that "mind the gap" was inspired by the London Underground.
EdwardEdm
Active Member
The stations and crossover cavities were all built as cut and cover.
Now I'm thinking about it, I actually wonder if they had to modify Central south at some point, as originally both tracks ran straight into the crossover cavities and were used a tail tracks. The crossovers came later.
Edmcowboy11
Senior Member
So in the crazy world of meta/facebook i was having a debate with a user who confidently claimed that Edmonton has already received a train from hyundai rotam for the high floor line already.
He emphstically stated "There Hyundai theres 1 already sitting at the OMF garage that operators are using for training they will bring in the other ones once the new garage is constructed they should all be put into production in the next 3 years after the west valley line project is complete"
Then when myself and another user tried to tell him that he was mistaken and these were low floor trains not the new high floor trains by hyundai rotam his answer was
"Paul your wrong but thats okay theres always 1 or 2 of those guys in a comment section that think they know everything beacuse they read some fake news articles" and
"Paul I work with the company that supplies the trains so ya i know a few things"
So in an effort to be fair and potentially admit my mistake who can confirm to me that he indeed is right and we already have a new high floor train sitting here in Edmonton?
He emphstically stated "There Hyundai theres 1 already sitting at the OMF garage that operators are using for training they will bring in the other ones once the new garage is constructed they should all be put into production in the next 3 years after the west valley line project is complete"
Then when myself and another user tried to tell him that he was mistaken and these were low floor trains not the new high floor trains by hyundai rotam his answer was
"Paul your wrong but thats okay theres always 1 or 2 of those guys in a comment section that think they know everything beacuse they read some fake news articles" and
"Paul I work with the company that supplies the trains so ya i know a few things"
So in an effort to be fair and potentially admit my mistake who can confirm to me that he indeed is right and we already have a new high floor train sitting here in Edmonton?